Comments Thread For: Chris Algieri: "No One Beats A Prime Roy Jones Jr, Beterbiev Included"

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  • chicken-
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    #51
    Originally posted by CasperUK
    Good talented fighters from Eastern Europe were frozen out of global boxing during the days of Roy Jones' peak
    Yea that's the problem though, UK had "good talented fighters", no great ones.

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    • hugh grant
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      #52
      nobody may have beat a prime RJJ. But dont mean to say nobody can. Just like nobody beat a prime Tyson. You might say buster douglas did. But tyson wasnt his best that night.

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        #53
        Originally posted by allen23

        I think Roy's problem wasn't going to heavyweight it was how quickly he came back down in weight. He dared to begreat but it cost him

        still for me the greatest I've seen, better than mayweather
        This. He went from LHW to HW then back down to LHW. This was at the end of his career and he was not the same guy after bouncing around weight classes. The fact he was able to come back down from HW and make 175 is ridiculous

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          #54
          Originally posted by takenotes

          This. He went from LHW to HW then back down to LHW. This was at the end of his career and he was not the same guy after bouncing around weight classes. The fact he was able to come back down from HW and make 175 is ridiculous
          Literally that was his downfall

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            #55
            Originally posted by allen23

            I think Roy's problem wasn't going to heavyweight it was how quickly he came back down in weight. He dared to begreat but it cost him

            still for me the greatest I've seen, better than mayweather
            Yeah, what happened was Jones was pissed at all of Tarver's non-stop taunts and Jones had bult up his muscles for the Ruiz fight and then when he dropped weight too fast, his muscles atrophied and it is hard enough to lose fat weight (which he did not have) but losing muscle weight when he was past his prime was a sure way to age fast. His body, a perfect fighting machine was breaking down. When he walked toward the ring for the Tarver 1 fight, he was gaunt as hell! I could not believe how he looked. His skin had a grey tint. That was the dumbest thing he ever did.
            Last edited by richardt; 01-25-2024, 03:24 PM.

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              #56
              Uh oh….this comment by Algieri isn’t going to go down well with the Calzaghe fans

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                #57
                Subject A) Roy's chin. No one ever dropped him or stopped him in his prime. Only when he sped up his biological clock by dropping muscle weight fast did that take a toll and his punch resistance went down. Think about how many fighters took bigger punchers and bigger fighters shots and barely blinked but when they dropped weight, they were stopped. To name just one, Chris Byrd held up to some heavyweight punches and you would think that when he went down to 175 or so to fight Shaun George, George would not be able to dent him. You would almost bet your house that a fighter with a 50% KO record at 175 could not possibly stop Byrd. He did. So many examples of dropping weight going wrong and being susceptible to punches more than ever.
                Last edited by richardt; 01-25-2024, 03:44 PM.

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                  #58
                  Subject B) Ripped Fuel. Jones admitted taking a produce named “Ripped Fuel” which contained androstenedione, a natural hormone which was available over the counter until 2004. This was no injection, a simple mistake and the only time he tested positive for anything. Ironically, Richard Hall also had tested for androstenedione that same fight. ​

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                    Subject C) I met Jones when I didn't know who he was. I was visiting Sun Valley Mall in Concord during the Olympic Box-offs when I was knee high to a grasshopper and met a guy looking over the gloves and he has a shirt on with a picture of Leonard and I mentioned I was a fan and the guy next to him said as he pointed to Jones that he will be the next Leonard. I could have laughed but said something like "Cool". Then I go home to watch the box off's that were in my town and I saw Jones and was blown away when I realized how amazing he was and that I had just met him. Damn Korea for the greatest Olympic robbery of all time.
                    Last edited by richardt; 01-25-2024, 03:45 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Oldskoolg
                      Uh oh….this comment by Algieri isn’t going to go down well with the Calzaghe fans
                      I’ve already said imo , he’s the only guy I see beating RJJ

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