Comments Thread For: WBC Explains Their Position on 'Atypical Findings' in Artur Beterbiev's VADA Tests

[dan-b]

But yeah, your comment of 24/7/365 testing is obviously what is needed. Gotta have fair fights.

What would it cost to have every registered professional boxer enrolled in year-round testing? Because that's what's needed.

It's only really champions/titleholders, their challengers, and guys in the top 15 of the WBC who have ad hoc VADA testing. Even that's inconsistently applied.

Contracting in VADA has always been a sticking plaster, and an expensive one only certain fighters can afford. Does the health of an Indonesian rookie matter less than Canelo's for example? I don't think so.

Without overall governance I don't see how boxing gets to a situation similar to that of cycling. The WBC like to masquerade as a governing body but they're not, they're a sanctioning body.

[jackblack008]

Kudos to WBC and VADA collab.

[champion4ever]

What is Sulaiman saying that we don’t already know? Of course, all of his subsequent samples are going to come back negative.

These steroid cheats are experts. They know how to circumvent and manipulate in order to go undetected.

[champion4ever]

It’s nice how everyone is willing to give Beterbiev the benefit of the doubt but not Roy Jones, Jr when his post fight urine test came back atypical for an anabolic steroid. When all subsequent tests have all come back negative.

[Madison Boxing]

you either fail the test or you dont, simple as that

[AmpMcv]

Atypical means NOT TYPICAL. It means basically somehow someway a professional boxer has more testosterone and hgh levels than your average dude.
Why is this a talking point?

This is Hearn promoting a fight.

[GBP4LIFE]

All I read was he did NOT fail a test.. hmmm unlike a certain bunch of fighters from the UK

[_Rexy_]

How comes its being highlighted this time, in your opinion?

Because Hearn decided to leak it a day before the fight to cause controversy.

It's a non failed test that happened over a month ago. VADA immediately came out and made a statement clearing Artur.

Do the math.

[_Rexy_]

It’s nice how everyone is willing to give Beterbiev the benefit of the doubt but not Roy Jones, Jr when his post fight urine test came back atypical for an anabolic steroid. When all subsequent tests have all come back negative.

Last I checked theres abit of a difference between atypical amounts of natural hormones, and atypical amounts of anabolic steroids.

[SteveM]

What would it cost to have every registered professional boxer enrolled in year-round testing? Because that's what's needed.

It's only really champions/titleholders, their challengers, and guys in the top 15 of the WBC who have ad hoc VADA testing. Even that's inconsistently applied.

Contracting in VADA has always been a sticking plaster, and an expensive one only certain fighters can afford. Does the health of an Indonesian rookie matter less than Canelo's for example? I don't think so.

Without overall governance I don't see how boxing gets to a situation similar to that of cycling. The WBC like to masquerade as a governing body but they're not, they're a sanctioning body.

Do you have any idea how many active boxers there are around the world at any one time? Thousands - maybe tens of thousands. Go to boxrec and look at the scheduled fights for just the upcoming week - most week it'll be hundreds and hundreds of fights. Just the travel expenses for all the testers needed makes it a non-starter - there's not enough money in the lower levels of boxing to do what you suggest. Overall governance is a red herring - that wouldn't produce all the money needed to test all pro boxers in the world.