So Beterbiev tested for high levels of HGH and testosterone

[Smash]

lets just give the guy a break, hes guilty until proven innocent

[_Rexy_]

There are certainly many broscientists around, I wouldn't go to them for medical advice personally.

I accept speaking to his simpy avatar was below the belt but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he just lifted those numbers from somewhere else and is now presuming to know what they mean. He doesn't even know what VADA's "typical" result measurement is. I suspect he just dislikes Hearn and likes Beterbiev and that's largely informing his position.

Personally, I've taken ECA, and Clenbuteral in the past. (I'm close to 40, my amateur record in my sig is from my late teens/early 20's before I shattered my hand and had to quit) So when Canelo failed for Clen I was in there giving as much info as I could on the matter.

I've never taken Test or HGH, so I'm mainly just speculating based on what I've read. Ironically though, fasting is a scientifically proven way to boost both your test and HGH levels, and Artur is a ******. Does this mean he did it through fasting? No. But it is food for thought. I just did a 38 hour fast last weekend out of curiosity, and was actually shocked that I got a huge energy boost around the 20 hour mark.

End of the day though, I'm curious if atypical findings happen often, but because they're not fails they're just mentioned at the fighters meeting with the caveat "they haven't failed anything, up to you if you wanna fight."

[ShoulderRoll]

Should probably do that before making statements of people being a cheat, that you've now changed to a question

He can't be a cheater to you anyway, can he?

He doesn't have the physique of a bodybuilder.

His physique is quite muscled. At almost 39 years of age.

He is heavily suspect now at the very least. Something which even you just admitted a few posts ago.

[Superbee]

LOL... Matchroom finding whatever excuses they can before the fight ?

[mlac]

His physique is quite muscled. At almost 39 years of age.

He is heavily suspect now at the very least. Something which even you just admitted a few posts ago.

shoulderroll logic:
Canelo busts x2 for PEDS ' he's obviously innocent, he's cleared he ate a tainted taco ' !

Beterbiev never fails a test in his career. he has muscles = probably cheating

[Toffee]

First paragraph: I don't know, I was more thinking out loud. But how many 39 year old boxers do they test to compare to?

Hearn is always talking smug and irritating. He comes off EXTRA smug and irritating though because he's the only promoter out there who actively ignores multiple failed drug testings and tries to get his suspended fighters fights in different jurisdictions.

But the fact that it was worded "Atypical Finding" instead of "adverse effects" or "failed drug test" (Like with Benn, Whyte, Baumgartner, Chavez Jr for example) is what made me think that. Plus, VADA immediately came out and cleared it anyways.


EDIT - I see this just got posted, and basically says what I said

Did you feel the same way when UKAD "cleared" Dillian Whyte ahead of the Rivas fight and then subsequently cleared him of all wrongdoing on the basis of the evidence pointing to an isolated contamination event?

Personally I'm comfortable that they're all doping to some extent, but that the scientists can dictate whether someone is within the current rules or not.

The issue really shouldn't be whether a finding is adverse, or atypical. Who really cares? They both suggest doping... but is there actually a danger posed? Based on what we're seeing you could have an adverse finding that is a non-event, and you could have an atypical finding that is genuinely dangerous.

[Superbee]

Didn't read all the previous pages, but ...

It has been found that both substances have occured naturally in the body and follow-up tests from VADA were all negative.

Beterbiev has already spoken out with a statement released on social media earlier today: “It has come to my attention that Callum Smith intends to disseminate misleading information about my VADA testing for this fight. Let me be clear now - I am a clean athlete. I have never tested positive for a banned substance throughout my career. Any attempt to imply otherwise, through innuendo or suggestion is slanderous and libellous. This conduct is beyond acceptable trash talk. Callum is already searching for excuses, looking for a way out. See you Saturday.”

https://www.britishboxingnews.co.uk/...um-smith-fight


You don't want to make Artur angry... Now he's all in for sure for a KO ... Farewell Callum, you'll be missed ...

[M312]

LOL... Matchroom finding whatever excuses they can before the fight ?

This wasn't released by Matchroom

[IronDanHamza]

His physique is quite muscled. At almost 39 years of age.

He is heavily suspect now at the very least. Something which even you just admitted a few posts ago.

Right, yeah, a boxer has muscles. Is this news to you or something?

The point is your reasoning for Ngannou being assuredly on PEDs is his physique + age.

Your reasoning for Floyd Mayweather being a clean athlete is apparently he's not heavily muscled at an older age (He was)

How is Beterbiev any more "heavily muscled" than Floyd? For their dimensions they all fit the bracket of "heavily muscled".

Your problem is you pick and choose based off your agenda whether someone is "assuredly on PEDs".

[Eff Pandas]

Fights happening so its whatever.

But yea lotsa mfers at this level are on PEDs & it's naive to think your favorite fighter isn't among them. To me its not about using PEDs its a game of not getting caught using PEDs. Everything is legal as long as you don't get caught as they say.

Randomly they need to probably go the UK way with drug testing & make both sides sign NDAs or some sh^t so there can't be sh^t like this out in the ether a couple days before the fight.