Can’t really argue with this. Inoue had a brilliant year.
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Originally posted by Boro View Post
There has only ever really been a select few multi weight undisputed titlists pre 4 belt era and that's the likes of Holyfield, Armstrong, Tiger and Griffith who ironically actually fought each other, so stating something obvious like "i can guarantee blah blah to become 2x undisputed" is redundant.
You should ask yourself why was spence considered P4P, he beat on PBC hypejobs...
Porter lost all of his big fights including the Ugas fight despite the result.
Danny Garcia hasn't done anything at 47.
Ugas no one really rates and we all know it should've been Pacman in there but Spence faked his injury rather than get embarrassed.
We know Spence actively avoid one time when he was one time and not once upon a time, the one guy at PBC who was a legit threat.
Lastly Brook who wasn't with PBC but he never proved anything after he beat Porter, in fact even his long time trainers and coach admit his career went to shít after winning the belt and he also took a beating off GGG just before the Spence fight.
Realistically Spence had smoke blown up his ass because he was rumoured to give Floyd a hard time in sparring that's it, he shouldn't be a considered a P4P talent when he hasn't moved through divisions, he's a known weight bully and his resume is questionable if you look at it properly...Last edited by Aware; 01-07-2024, 05:11 PM.
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Originally posted by Aware View Post
Now do Inoue's two opponents for 2023. Tell me how they were so much better. You listed 4 of Spence's opponents, now do they same with both Fulton and Tapales.
2 great wins back to back for inoue is better than a spence win for bud, spence mightve had off night,Last edited by hugh grant; 01-07-2024, 05:30 PM.zalous likes this.
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Originally posted by Boro View Post
There has only ever really been a select few multi weight undisputed titlists pre 4 belt era and that's the likes of Holyfield, Armstrong, Tiger and Griffith who ironically actually fought each other, so stating something obvious like "i can guarantee blah blah to become 2x undisputed" is redundant.
You should ask yourself why was spence considered P4P, he beat on PBC hypejobs...
Porter lost all of his big fights including the Ugas fight despite the result.
Danny Garcia hasn't done anything at 47.
Ugas no one really rates and we all know it should've been Pacman in there but Spence faked his injury rather than get embarrassed.
We know Spence actively avoid one time when he was one time and not once upon a time, the one guy at PBC who was a legit threat.
Lastly Brook who wasn't with PBC but he never proved anything after he beat Porter, in fact even his long time trainers and coach admit his career went to shít after winning the belt and he also took a beating off GGG just before the Spence fight.
Realistically Spence had smoke blown up his ass because he was rumoured to give Floyd a hard time in sparring that's it, he shouldn't be a considered a P4P talent when he hasn't moved through divisions, he's a known weight bully and his resume is questionable if you look at it properly...
Try again, troll. Crawford and Spence were the last two standing after clearing out a deep division. When it came down to the wire, it wasn't even close.
I'd really love for you to apply this same logic to Inoue's opponents and make his case for FOTY. Please. Continue.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Tapales is a 2 division champ isn't he with more wins under his belt than spence has had fights. Plus it was Inoue s 4th division.
2 great wins back to back for inoue is better than a spence win for bud, spence mightve had off night,Last edited by Aware; 01-07-2024, 06:06 PM.Combat Talk Radio likes this.
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Originally posted by Aware View Post
Now do Inoue's two opponents for 2023. Tell me how they were so much better. You listed 4 of Spence's opponents, now do they same with both Fulton and Tapales.
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Originally posted by boxing IQ View Post
This is your angle? Every top welterweight in the world ******? Lol.
Try again, troll. Crawford and Spence were the last two standing after clearing out a deep division. When it came down to the wire, it wasn't even close.
I'd really love for you to apply this same logic to Inoue's opponents and make his case for FOTY. Please. Continue.
Welterweight hasn't been deep in years, you've been fooled into believing it was.
Arguably the only talented one in the division was Bud and at one point Thurman hence why Spence wanted none of it and there was such a disparity between them when it did eventually happen...
This doesn't just apply to welter either, there is a lot of divisions were people are claiming guys are top flight and they're mediocre and couldn't do shít in previous eras
They wouldn't even beat guys who where gatekeepers, let alone be in the running for consideration for P4P talent, it's laughable you or anyone else consider these people in this way...Last edited by Boro; 01-07-2024, 06:49 PM.JOITATS likes this.
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Originally posted by Boro View Post
Why would I do Inoue, I wasn't comparing Bud to Inoue idiot, where is your reading comprehension back in 4th grade?
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Originally posted by Aware View Post
You were discrediting Crawford's 2023 opponent in Spence. This is a thread about Inoue winning fighter of the year and there is a strong argument that Crawford should have got it. I think I understood.
And it took it him 6 years to not only become undisputed but to even get his first unification, there is guys who've debuted and become undisputed in less time than him.
Inoue moved up and immediately beat the #1 guy and then fought the guy who had just beaten the person who was considered #2 to become undisputed in 2 divisions in 53 weeks.
The only reason you're even questioning this is either racial bias or a lack of respect for lower divisions, either way it's unacceptable.
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