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  • #21
    Inoue obviously
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    • #22
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

      Haney just turned 25 in November. He is young and at an age where he can still cut that much weight and be effective, and despite that he looked like a skeleton anyway at the Lomachenko weigh in.

      Ngannou is 37 and over 270 lbs of muscle with very little body fat.

      Do you understand the difference? Or does it give you trouble, like how you can’t see the difference between clomiphene being illegal for use in egg production in the UK and clenbuterol being in widespread use in the beef industry in Mexico?
      Nothing of what you’ve said here holds any bearing on the likelihood of Devin Haney being on PEDs in comparison to Ngannou. Both of them have strong reasons for su****ion, they both also have no evidence to support that they using. Point being, you can’t baselessly accuse one and then consider the other void of su****ion. It’s just a really ****** and ignorant way to go about things.

      Also just so you know, “looking like a skeleton” at a weigh in would suggest PED use, not the other way around.

      Your second point, that’s been done to death now but you’ll seemingly never grasp, is irrelevant. It’s feasible, or at the very least possible, that Benn’s trace Clomid detection could have been from egg consumption or general contamination just like it’s feasible and possible Canelo’s trace Clen detection was due to eating meat. The fact is, however, the evidence that either of those things happened are at entirely zero, hence, the plausibility being the same, zero. I cannot explain, break down, say it slower, anything of that nature in any way for you to understand that, it seems that you never will. You’re like the mong in the back of the class the teacher gives up on. Your brain will never compute it.


      How about this, explain and justify your position that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Mayweather is clean.

      Justify that stance.

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      • #23
        FOTY I'd say Noaya Inoue, but I still rank Crawford better overall fighter. Like P4P I'd put Crawford ahead of him still. Though like other said, you can't be FOTY with 1 fight, no matter how incredible the performance was. Noaya continues to prove himself and stays busy.​

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        • #24
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

          Nothing of what you’ve said here holds any bearing on the likelihood of Devin Haney being on PEDs in comparison to Ngannou. Both of them have strong reasons for su****ion, they both also have no evidence to support that they using. Point being, you can’t baselessly accuse one and then consider the other void of su****ion. It’s just a really ****** and ignorant way to go about things.

          Also just so you know, “looking like a skeleton” at a weigh in would suggest PED use, not the other way around.

          Your second point, that’s been done to death now but you’ll seemingly never grasp, is irrelevant. It’s feasible, or at the very least possible, that Benn’s trace Clomid detection could have been from egg consumption or general contamination just like it’s feasible and possible Canelo’s trace Clen detection was due to eating meat. The fact is, however, the evidence that either of those things happened are at entirely zero, hence, the plausibility being the same, zero. I cannot explain, break down, say it slower, anything of that nature in any way for you to understand that, it seems that you never will. You’re like the mong in the back of the class the teacher gives up on. Your brain will never compute it.


          How about this, explain and justify your position that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Mayweather is clean.

          Justify that stance.
          No Dan, it’s less feasible that Benn got clomiphene from eggs in the UK where it’s not allowed than it is that Canelo got clenbuterol from meat in Mexico where it is commonly used. With no possible sources named…unlike Canelo who named and was seen at several potential sources of meat contamination.

          You’re ridiculous and your little bullsh-t agenda has been done to death now yet you keep showing your ass anyway.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

            No Dan, it’s less feasible that Benn got clomiphene from eggs in the UK where it’s not allowed than it is that Canelo got clenbuterol from meat in Mexico where it is commonly used. With no possible sources named…unlike Canelo who named and was seen at several potential sources of meat contamination.

            You’re ridiculous and your little bullsh-t agenda has been done to death now yet you keep showing your ass anyway.
            It's less likely, it's not less plausible. That is the point you're not understanding. Neither excuse is plausible or have any evidence to support.

            You saying Benn has no possible sources is not correct as you don't know the contents of the hearing he had where evidence could have been presented as it's confidential, for all we know he has given his sources as to where he got eggs from that could possibly be contaminated. And if he did do that, the plausibility would still be at zero just like Canelo's contaminated meat excuse is at zero.

            Agendas, What a joke. I don't much care for this Benn vs Canelo crap, I've already explained to you as clearly and basically as I can as if you were a 4 year old child as to why they plausibility of both of those cases are at zero, at this point it's something your tiny brain will never understand. It's you that constantly brings that up when I'm verbally destroying you about something else. God knows why since every time you do it you look like more of a clueless idiot You might think it helps you from drowning but it really doesn't.

            You are the one on this fake PED crusade despite the fact it's become abundantly clear you are as clueless as it get's about PEDs and the usage of them, you literally have no idea what you're talking about and as someone like myself who is a PED expert and have been in and around PED's for over 35 years that's why I'm constantly onto you about it because it's preposterous beyond all levels at this point, it's almost my duty to educate idiots like you when you talk utter nonsense on the subject, for what reason I don't know. To say the likes of Detonay Wilder and Devin Haney are two athletes you'd consider to be unsu****ious on the surface is just so far into the realms of bizarro world it's not even funny.

            You act high and mighty about PED use then refuse to condemn the fighters you like that have used them; Canelo, Mosley, Toney. Going as far for laughable claiming the likes of Canelo are "likely clean" because they have undergone VADA testing While at the same time accusing Ngannou of being assuredly on PED's despite the fact he's done a 365 USADA program for a decade. How those two positions can run parallel is legitimately one of the most absurd things I've ever read in my life.

            How about this, why don't you stop being the spineless coward you are and explain and justify your position that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Mayweather is clean.

            Justify that stance.

            Every time you avoid that you look more and more pathetic. Have some pride and address your claim. ​
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 12-27-2023, 01:20 PM.
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            • #26
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

              It's less likely, it's not less plausible. That is the point you're not understanding. Neither excuse is plausible or have any evidence to support.

              You saying Benn has no possible sources is not correct as you don't know the contents of the hearing he had where evidence could have been presented as it's confidential, for all we know he has given his sources as to where he got eggs from that could possibly be contaminated. And if he did do that, the plausibility would still be at zero just like Canelo's contaminated meat excuse is at zero.

              Agendas, What a joke. I don't much care for this Benn vs Canelo crap, I've already explained to you as clearly and basically as I can as if you were a 4 year old child as to why they plausibility of both of those cases are at zero, at this point it's something your tiny brain will never understand. It's you that constantly brings that up when I'm verbally destroying you about something else. God knows why since every time you do it you look like more of a clueless idiot You might think it helps you from drowning but it really doesn't.

              You are the one on this fake PED crusade despite the fact it's become abundantly clear you are as clueless as it get's about PEDs and the usage of them, you literally have no idea what you're talking about and as someone like myself who is a PED expert and have been in and around PED's for over 35 years that's why I'm constantly onto you about it because it's preposterous beyond all levels at this point, it's almost my duty to educate idiots like you when you talk utter nonsense on the subject, for what reason I don't know. To say the likes of Detonay Wilder and Devin Haney are two athletes you'd consider to be unsu****ious on the surface is just so far into the realms of bizarro world it's not even funny.

              You act high and mighty about PED use then refuse to condemn the fighters you like that have used them; Canelo, Mosley, Toney. Going as far for laughable claiming the likes of Canelo are "likely clean" because they have undergone VADA testing While at the same time accusing Ngannou of being assuredly on PED's despite the fact he's done a 365 USADA program for a decade. How those two positions can run parallel is legitimately one of the most absurd things I've ever read in my life.

              How about this, why don't you stop being the spineless coward you are and explain and justify your position that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Mayweather is clean.

              Justify that stance.

              Every time you avoid that you look more and more pathetic. Have some pride and address your claim. ​
              Less likely, not less plausible?

              You’re just reaching now to keep from acknowledging your L.

              But here you go, 47 synonyms for “plausible.” Notice how “likely” comes up right away under strongest matches?

              Jackass.

              https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/feasible

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              • #27
                Crawford to me because fight with Spence was still seen as a 50/50 fight, whether you want to admit or not. If it's not, then the manner in which Spence lost was enough to even out the odds. Haney's win with Loma was in doubt. Prograis was huge underdog. Inoue was always the favorite in any of his fights, so... In any case, I really don't give much thought to this.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                  Less likely, not less plausible?

                  You’re just reaching now to keep from acknowledging your L.

                  But here you go, 47 synonyms for “plausible.” Notice how “likely” comes up right away under strongest matches?

                  Jackass.

                  https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/feasible
                  Good grief You really are just straight up retarded, aren't you?

                  You've sent me the synonyms for "feasible" there, not plausible. You might want to look up the synonyms for "plausible" you fcking retard!

                  You know those things known as "words", they hold different meanings. They mean different things.

                  Erm so yes, plausible. That's a different word to likely, despite yes being a similar one. Canelo's excuse could easily be more likely, it's also just as likely that someone spiked his drink with Clen.

                  Main issue here being the evidence as at zero, hence, it's not plausible i.e Reasonable, or probable. Same goes to Benn, hence, plausibility, both at zero despite their potential differences in their likelihoods, I CANNOT explain this in any other way that your brain will ever understand.


                  Acknowledging my L Jesus Christ, me talking to you on this topic is like Roger Federer playing a Tennis match with Serena Williams. It's the equivalent to playing Chess with a Piegon, you have no clue what you're doing you just knock all the the pieces over and claim you won


                  As I've said, I've already demolished your embarrassing stance on Canelo vs Benn. I have no interest in continuing to do so.

                  What I am intrested in is this;

                  Why don't you stop being the spineless coward you are and explain and justify your position that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Mayweather is clean.

                  Justify that stance.

                  Every time you avoid that you look more and more pathetic. Have some pride and address your claim.​
                  Last edited by IronDanHamza; 12-27-2023, 02:44 PM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                    Good grief You really are just straight up retarded, aren't you?

                    Erm yes, plausible. That's a different word to likely despite yes being a similar one. Canelo's excuse could easily be more likely, it's also just as likely that someone spiked his drink with Clen.

                    Main issue here being the evidence as at zero, hence, it's not plausible i.e Reasonable, or probable. Same goes to Benn, hence, plausibility, both at zero despite their potential differences in their likelihoods, I CANNOT explain this in any other way that your brain will ever understand.


                    Acknowledging my L Jesus Christ, me talking to you on this topic is like Roger Federer playing a Tennis match with Serena Williams. It's the equivalent to playing Chess with a Piegon, you have no clue what you're doing you just knock all the the pieces over and claim you won


                    As I've said, I've already demolished your embarrassing stance on Canelo vs Benn. I have no interest in continuing to do so.

                    What I am intrested in is this;

                    Why don't you stop being the spineless coward you are and explain and justify your position that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Mayweather is clean.

                    Justify that stance.

                    Every time you avoid that you look more and more pathetic. Have some pride and address your claim.​
                    Knocking over all the pieces? What the hell are you even talking about? This is simple logic.

                    Benn’s evidence certainly is at zero as far as we know.

                    While Canelo at least presented names of places he had eaten at in Mexico, and he was even seen publicly at some of those places during the time period in question. Meaning he actually provided something. Which is empirically more than providing nothing.
                    Last edited by ShoulderRoll; 12-27-2023, 02:49 PM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

                      Knocking over all the pieces? What the hell are you even talking about? This is simple logic.

                      Bennās evidence certainly is at zero as far as we know.

                      While Canelo at least presented names of places he had eaten at in Mexico, and he was even seen publicly at some of those places during the time period in question. Meaning he actually provided something. Which is empirically more than providing nothing.
                      Yes, you know those little things that are on a Chess Board? They're called pieces

                      You sent me the synonyms for "feasible" by the way, not plausible Feasible means POSSIBLE whereas Plausible means REASONABLE. You might want to look up the synonyms for "plausible" you fcking retard!

                      You know those things known as "words", they hold different meanings. They mean different things.




                      Ok and what you've just cited there that Canelo provided is NOT evidence that his drug test was positive due to contaminated meat. How can I say this in another way that you'll understand? Going to a place or even 100 places, is NOT evidence that is drug test was positive due to contaminated meat. You can repeat it a trillion times, that fact will never change.

                      So to make it clear (again) both cases have a PLAUSIBILITY of ZERO. Yes, as in the literal term ZERO. The levels of likelihood between to two are #1 irrelevant and #2 unproveable because the evidence is at zero so it's a moot point.


                      Now, why don't you stop being the spineless coward you are and explain and justify your position that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Mayweather is clean.

                      Justify that stance.

                      Every time you avoid that you look more and more pathetic. Have some pride and address your claim.
                      Last edited by IronDanHamza; 12-27-2023, 03:09 PM.

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