Fighter of the Year !

[-Kev-]

Tszyu deserves a shoutout because while he didn’t get ONE great win, he did get TWO solid wins over Harrison and Mendoza, and stayed busy with Ocampo. He’s not my pick, just saying he deserves a mention.

The most impressive wins of the year IN MY OPINION were:

Crawford over Spence (best win) - I thought Spence would win. So this gets #1 in my eyes, my opinion, because I just didn’t think it would happen. Yes, I thought Wilder would beat Parker so it should apply to that one too. But no, Wilder’s age kinda ruins that.

Inoue over Fulton - This was a 50-50 fight IMO, and Inoue doing what he did to Fulton was very impressive. Doesn’t trump Crawford over Spence though.

Haney over Prograis - I expected way more from Prograis and way less from Haney. It gets only 3rd because Haney weighed 165lbs in the ring and couldn’t get or didn’t pursue the KO even though he could hurt Prograis.

Benavidez over Andrade - Admittedly, I never thought Andrade was a good fighter. Still, a TKO win over an undefeated, highly ranked fighter who some fans and journalists labeled a boogeyman, is a good way to impress while showing there’s levels to this.

Espinoza over Ramirez - Just a shocker.

Parker over Wilder - Wilder’s age and it being a decision saps some glory out of it. Still a shocker and a great win for Parker.

The winner: Noaya Inoue.

Reason: Crawford fought only once, you can’t get FOTY by fighting once. Even if you beat God. Next in line by default is Naoya Inoue, who destroyed Stephen Fulton, and while he got a very predictable TKO win over Marlon Tapales, he got the accomplishment of being undisputed champion with that win.

I had Haney losing to Lomachenko.

Benavidez didn’t impress me vs Plant.

Espinoza was an out of nowhere win, no other good wins.

While the Wilder win was Parker’s 4th of the year, the other 3 wins weren’t against very good fighters. In fact, I don’t actually know who those other 3 guys are.

[Mammoth]

Haney and its not close but people will cry robbery and whatever else to discredit him.

I think his year was super strong but Inoue's was better.

[IronDanHamza]

I think Haney has the best wins; Lomachenko and Prograis.

[ShoulderRoll]

[IronDanHamza]

Does PED use disqualify you from FOTY discussions?

Because I'm assuming you deem Haney to be assuredly on PEDs right?

[ShoulderRoll]

Does PED use disqualify you from FOTY discussions?

Because I'm assuming you deem Haney to be assuredly on PEDs right?

No reason to suspect him of PED use.

[IronDanHamza]

No reason to suspect him of PED use.

Oh really? Someone who cuts 25 lbs to make weight, ripped to shreds, with one in a million fast twitch muscle movements, who's shown no signs of fatigue across a 12 round distance is not a suspect of PED use? Are you for real?

What do you actually know about PEDs? I suspect it's next to nothing at this point with the nonsense you spew.

How can you assert that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Devin Haney has no reason to be suspected?

Has it sunk in yet the slippery slope you go down when you baselessly accuse people of being on PED's with no evidence? It means the doors open for every elite athlete.

[ShoulderRoll]

Oh really? Someone who cuts 25 lbs to make weight, ripped to shreds, with one in a million fast twitch muscle movements, who's shown no signs of fatigue across a 12 round distance is not a suspect of PED use? Are you for real?

What do you actually know about PEDs? I suspect it's next to nothing at this point with the nonsense you spew.

How can you assert that Ngannou is assuredly on PEDs and Devin Haney has no reason to be suspected?

Has it sunk in yet the slippery slope you go down when you baselessly accuse people of being on PED's with no evidence? It means the doors open for every elite athlete.

Haney just turned 25 in November. He is young and at an age where he can still cut that much weight and be effective, and despite that he looked like a skeleton anyway at the Lomachenko weigh in.

Ngannou is 37 and over 270 lbs of muscle with very little body fat.

Do you understand the difference? Or does it give you trouble, like how you can’t see the difference between clomiphene being illegal for use in egg production in the UK and clenbuterol being in widespread use in the beef industry in Mexico?

[Johnny Rubber]

Tszyu deserves a shoutout because while he didn’t get ONE great win, he did get TWO solid wins over Harrison and Mendoza, and stayed busy with Ocampo. He’s not my pick, just saying he deserves a mention.

The most impressive wins of the year IN MY OPINION were:

Crawford over Spence (best win) - I thought Spence would win. So this gets #1 in my eyes, my opinion, because I just didn’t think it would happen. Yes, I thought Wilder would beat Parker so it should apply to that one too. But no, Wilder’s age kinda ruins that.

Inoue over Fulton - This was a 50-50 fight IMO, and Inoue doing what he did to Fulton was very impressive. Doesn’t trump Crawford over Spence though.

Haney over Prograis - I expected way more from Prograis and way less from Haney. It gets only 3rd because Haney weighed 165lbs in the ring and couldn’t get or didn’t pursue the KO even though he could hurt Prograis.

Benavidez over Andrade - Admittedly, I never thought Andrade was a good fighter. Still, a TKO win over an undefeated, highly ranked fighter who some fans and journalists labeled a boogeyman, is a good way to impress while showing there’s levels to this.

Espinoza over Ramirez - Just a shocker.

Parker over Wilder - Wilder’s age and it being a decision saps some glory out of it. Still a shocker and a great win for Parker.

The winner: Noaya Inoue.

Reason: Crawford fought only once, you can’t get FOTY by fighting once. Even if you beat God. Next in line by default is Naoya Inoue, who destroyed Stephen Fulton, and while he got a very predictable TKO win over Marlon Tapales, he got the accomplishment of being undisputed champion with that win.

I had Haney losing to Lomachenko.

Benavidez didn’t impress me vs Plant.

Espinoza was an out of nowhere win, no other good wins.

While the Wilder win was Parker’s 4th of the year, the other 3 wins weren’t against very good fighters. In fact, I don’t actually know who those other 3 guys are.

Wonderfully put Kev. This pretty much sums up what I saw in 2023

[Marchegiano]

Gonna get **** for this but IDGAF.

I don't really pay much attention to the sub HWs and really barely anything below 150. Because variety, challenge, and history.

Historically speaking all the divisions before 1910 that ain't HWs are fantasy BS. Some them from the ****ing 80s. Y'all regard Bridger? Follow that **** close? Exactly man, your BW is my everything below HW. It's too new and not needed for me to give a ****.

That said, we say styles make fights but never point out the stylistic challenges of the lower weights being very minimal. It's basically the same style vs the same style every fight. Who's better at being a mosquito, every fight.

Finally, the bull**** about weight gains. Dude if you back down from a fight over 2 pounds you are a *****. If you jumped five weights and each division was seperated by 2 or 3 pounds, you really jumped one ****ing boxing style. You can go from 120 to 150 and claim 5 divisions but the truth is you went from mosquito bobble head fighters to dudes who can crack. That's it. From divisions that have no big man game to divisions that do have big man game. Wowee, whoa, so impressive.

****ing flabbergasted so many of you never thought about the weight coverage of HWs being greater than most of your moved up in weight figures. Yup, it's true, it's damn true. What's special for a tinkerbell like Pac or Floyd is just a match for the HWs.


So that said, I do not respect the monster like youse. He's the king of the teeny tinies, killer bees, I acknowledge this. It doesn't mean much of **** all to me though. Crawford's the best fighter atm. He fights more variety. Monster unified two divisions that are exactly the same ****ing division separated by a poundage no ground ass man would back down from a fight over. "Oh no man, look at the size of him, he got a whole five pounds on me dude." c'mon ... that's ****** ****.