Tyson Furys LEGACY is being completely destroyed within a few months

[Smash]

Interesting you dont bring up the controversy around that fight and why the rematch didn't happen. Maybe if Fury wasn't a drug cheat he get more respect.

what controversy about the fight?

[joseph5620]

No. He barely has 16 cruiser fights and at least one very questionable victory over Briedis. You call that ATG? He is a legendary amateur and a good professional, that's all.



According to you. But Fury toyed with that cheater. I bet you forget all the Wlad's cheating, one that was previously talked about by Pulev. Plus, Fury has several other good wins. He however missed the chance of doing 2-3 more of them. Still has it, but will he do it?




For a blinded fan - it isn't debatable. But I am debating it and it seems you feel the need to prove it, as if it wasn't questionable, there wouldn't be any reason for doing it.



First, he didn't lose, but underperformed. Second, Francis is a boxing debutant, but not a fighting debutant and his first touch with martial arts was boxing. But if that makes you sleep better - good night then.

As I said before, Fury getting dropped and almost losing to an MMA fighter with no professional boxing experience is worse than anything you can find on Usyk's resume. No amount of excuses for that fight changes what happened. Usyk becoming undisputed champion with16 fights is far more inpressive than fighting Derek Chisora three times.


No matter how you try to spin it Fury's championship reign is terrible when compared to past heavywright champions and getting dropped and winning a very questionable decision over an MMA fighter is worse than anything you can try to dig up on Usyk. I'll add that Fury had also been caught cheating with performance enhancing drugs. No amount of spin will change that.

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As I said before, Fury getting dropped and almost losing to an MMM fighter with no professionall boxing experience is worse than anything you can find on Usyk's resume. Usyk becoming undisputed champion with16 fights is far more inpressive than fighting Derek Chisora three times.


No matter how you try to spin it Fury's championship reign is terrible when compared to past heavywright champions and getting dropped and winning a very questionable decision over an MMA fighter is worse than anything you can try to dig up on Usyk. I'll add that Fury had also been caught cheating with performance enhancing drugs. No amount of spin will change that.

You can say whatever you want, but Usyk is no ATG with that pathetic number of fights, some of them even questionable. But hey, him fighting Chazz is better for you, I get it. And still - he got dropped like a bag and was crawling and twitching in the most humiliating way ever. Then he was saved by a corrupt referee - the same referee who ruled a low blow in a similar situation for Usyk against AJ. The same referee who considered Wlad-Povetkin a clean fight. Now I have to remind you that Usyk is known to pretend for low blows every time he gets hurt to the body - he did it in several fights and this is something no other boxer did that many times.

I am not going into the nandrolone story of Fury, check when he was ruled clean, then on nandrolone, then clean again. Then check how much time you need for nandrolone to get out of your body. Then check if wild boar can indeed raise the level.

I am not spinning anything because I never said anything even near to "Fury's reign is better than any of those from the past" - this is something that will be evaluated in time.

[Clegg]

Not too long ago, some saw Fury as the among the best HWs ever. But right now his resume doesn't make him top 10. With the Wlad win, he used steroids to get to the title shot, then ducked the rematch, then went on a 3 year bender. So even Fury's one standout win is less impressive when seen in context.

I see some Fury fans trying to talk **** on Usyk and make his resume seem worse than it really is. Might want to think that over, because if Fury beats him you'll suddenly want to talk Usyk up to make Fury look better.

[_Rexy_]

No, Usyk lost to Dubois. And had a draw against Briedis in reality.

You sound like a Wilder fan arguing the long count against Fury.

And you think Usyk got a gift against Briedis in Latvia? That's a first.

[_Rexy_]

ATG - no. Resume - probably a bit better than Fury's, yeah, but at cruiserweight while he was a man of heavyweight size. A resume doesn't necessarily mean fighter A is better than fighter B and which one is the better one is about to be seen.

Why do you keep saying Usyk was a heavyweight when fighting at CW?

[_Rexy_]

3 fights with Chisora and couldn't drop him once.

[Godsfly]

This heavyweight division is absolutely horrid. You guys are justifiably (might I add) ripping fury but Usyk just caught a body shot and looked extremely venerable. Yes he got up and finished off the fight but a belt line shot that took him out and even injured him leaves a terrible taste. The division is just all around garbage......

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You need three comments for five sentences?

You sound like a Wilder fan arguing the long count against Fury.

And you think Usyk got a gift against Briedis in Latvia? That's a first.

You sound like a Fury hater. So don't you get it? People are free to like or dislike anyone. That doesn't stop them from saying "he is good" or whatever.

Yes, Usyk had a gift in Latvia, why not? Some say Serafim Todorov got a gift in the US when beat Floyd in the Olympics.

Why do you keep saying Usyk was a heavyweight when fighting at CW?

It seems you can't understand something that simple that Usyk was indeed a cruiser, but is a man of a heavyweight size. Yet, he chose to go to the heavyweight division so late and took a shortcut to "conquer" it. But you don't conquer the division by eventually winning against an exposed champion for some (AJ), a questionable one for some (Fury) and also by being given a victory that many people question (the Dubois fight). You conquer a division when you fight a decent number of good fighters.

To the other guy up there: so Fury is not a top 10 heavyweight (I can agree with that) and his resume is crap, but still - if Usyk beats him, it will prove how great Usyk is? "Might want to think that over" because you know what "if"...

[boxing IQ]

Boxing probably has more casual fans than any other sport and it shows on this site with the comments.

Took the words right out.