Tyson Furys LEGACY is being completely destroyed within a few months

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Usyk is already an all time great and has proven much more than Fury ever will at this stage. His resume is much better than Fury's.

ATG - no. Resume - probably a bit better than Fury's, yeah, but at cruiserweight while he was a man of heavyweight size. A resume doesn't necessarily mean fighter A is better than fighter B and which one is the better one is about to be seen.

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Usyk is already an all time great and has proven much more than Fury ever will at this stage. His resume is much better than Fury's.

At cruiserweight maybe, but his second best win at cruiserweight also lost to Wallin. Who else did he beat, Briedis in a fight many thought he lost, it was close. Bellew who had been beaten and knocked out at 175. Hardly ATG stuff either.

At heavyweight, no. He beat AJ twice who had been knocked out by Ruiz. He sc****d a win v Chisora 115-113. Faked a low blow because Dubois knocked him out with a body shot. That's it for his heavyweight resume.

Not even close to Fury's heavyweight resume really. Fury's biggest wins are more impressive wins than any of Usyk's. Usyk barely best Chisora, a guy Fury had already whooped and made him quit when he hadn't already lost a dozen times


Usyk is very good fighter but his resume in terms of actual opponents isn't special expect being able to say he was undisputed in another division but so was Kambosos. He hasn't got wins as big as Fury has.

[Atypicalbrit]

Everything is coming to a head in the next 2 or 3 big fights in the division.

It's been unpredictable so far.

Who's to say that fury doesn't beat Usyk and then Joshua, and then suddenly he's got the greatest resume since lennox Lewis and everyone will say they never doubted him for a second.

For me personally I'm just happy the division has a bit of an injection of ****e.

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What if Fury beats Usyk?

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No, he lost that fight, but was given victory - corruption or incompetent referee - you chose it.

Yes, Usyk has more than 1-2 good wins, like twice more. Nothing that big.

Usyk lost the Gassiev fight? What??

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I agree it was not the best of nights for fury's legacy. And when he pulls out of the Usyk fight he will become completely irrelevant.

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Yet he was the first to beat Chisora, so everyone beating him after that was only repeating what Fury did. Also stopped him twice, rather than the 115-113 victory Usyk got. You can't knock Fury for beating Chisora when he was first to do it. Second fight was in 2014, before Fury had moved to to world level, it was a fight for the British and European title, so that was OK too. It was a domestic fight at the time.

The third fight was a joke that didnt need to happen but at least he beat him up which Usyk couldn't do.

Chisora whooped Takam easier than both AJ and Parker. Let's not forget Parker really lost and got dropped by Chisora in their first fight. Parkers trainer forced him to rematch Chisora because he wasn't comfortable with the gift. Nobody is saying Chisora is great but his amount of losses paints him in a worse light than he is when he beat the likes of Takam easier than some supposed top fighters and he should be 1-1 with Parker. Gave Usyk a better fight than AJ, Gassiev etc.

But at the end of the day, Fury is the one with the biggest and best wins out of all the top heavyweight. He's the one who opened up the division beating Wlad. Hes the one who took Wilders 0, Usyk has beaten AJ who was already knocked out. Aj hasn't beaten any top 3 heavyweight, unless you count Wlad who already lost to Fury.

So everyone's best wins pale in comparison to Fury's as it stands, novody can refute this point

Tyson Fury has never legitimately knocked out Derek Chisora 'David Haye was the first fighter to decked Chisora, and knock him out'.

David Haye most likely has beaten the best version of Chisora, and in the most impressive fashion 'Chisora was coming off a great performance, and effort in his fight vs Vitali Kiltschko before fighting David Haye'.

Anthony Joshua beat a better more motivated version of Wladimir Kiltschko than Tyson Fury 'Joshua beat the version of Kiltschko, who Fury should of fought in his scheduled rematch. Which unfortunately Tyson Fury kept on pulling out of, due to his circumstance'.

Wladimir Kiltschko never retired after fighting Tyson Fury, he initiated his rematch clause 'Kiltschko had to endure three back to back training camps, which was evidence on the weigh in scales. Kiltschko weighed in at 240 pounds vs Joshua, compared to 245 pounds vs Fury'.

Note: Tyson Fury may just about have the two best wins in terms of historical magnitude on his resume 'Kiltschko and Wilder'. But Fury's overall resume at Heavyweight is not better than Anthony Joshua's 'And the greatest Heavyweight title fight of this era, is still Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua'.

Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years 'Fury breached the Kiltschko dominance, but he did not force him out of the game. It was Anthony Joshua who truly ushered in the new Heavyweight era, when he beat up and knocked out Wladimir Kiltschko'.

The Top-4 Heavyweights these past few years, have all been in a competition to see 'Who will be the last man standing'.

Muhammad Ali was the last man standing from the 70's, Lennox Lewis was the last man standing from the 90's 'We have witnessed this type of competition before in the latter part of Heavyweight era's'.

I still believe that Tyson Fury has track position, mainly because he is the WBC Heavyweight World Champion 'And is just about still undefeated in the professional ranks'.

But a competition to see who will be the last man standing is all about 'The long game'. I have never thought this type of dynamic is ideal for Tyson Fury 'Anthony Joshua has a near psychopathic work ethic, and Oleksandr Uysk is similar in that regards'.

Also the experience that Joshua has now in his career at fighting at World and elite level is showing up 'I don't think, his performance vs Wallin was anything new or spectacular. It was just Joshua's experience and true level in the game showing up'.

Wallin vs Joshua was the first fight where people could compare, Fury & Joshua side by side against a familiar opponent 'Since Wladimir Kiltschko'. Joshua has a more conclusive win over Wladimir Kiltschko than Fury, due to beating him up and knocking him out, and he also has a more dominant win over Otto Wallin'.

Tyson Fury's win over Kiltschko of course is still a greater win, in terms of historical magnitude 'But the action inside the ring was not as conclusive, there was a reason why Wladimir Kiltschko never wanted to rematch Anthony Joshua. Kiltschko left in all inside the ring vs Joshua'.

I think Joshua should fight Deontay Wilder next 'Just get that fight out of the way'. If Eddie Hearn has to? Then he should make that fight back in the UK, and lets do this fight early next year etc.

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Lol at “taking Wilders 0”

So every boxer can only ever legitimately lose once, and this is the fan base that calls others casuals.

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Usyk lost the Gassiev fight? What??

No, Usyk lost to Dubois. And had a draw against Briedis in reality.

[Spray_resistant]

3 years older than Fury is now.

Again, which of the top few heavyweights have a better wins than Fury has by taking Wlad's belts and Wilders 0

Tell me one fighter at heavyweight with two better wins and don't avoid the question...

Stand corrected, I didn't look it up but AJ has performed better against common opponents so I would say he for one has a better resume.

Fury is living off of that Wlad win which is his best obviously, take that away and its a mediocre resume.

You also have to consider how you win as well, some very poor performances on Fury's part.