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  • #71
    Originally posted by garfios View Post

    Agbeko was the last, before that caceres.
    Yup, and everyone saw what happened to those guys. Not a lot of callouts... Gee, I wonder why.

    Still waiting for someone to commit to a name that they'd bet on to beat Morrell. If they can't do that, the truth is that deep down, they know that Morrell is trouble in this division, and nobody is really eager to test him.

    Bottom line, people need to be willing to get in the ring with him.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by garfios View Post

      It was a duck, they were at ringside for the caceres fight, and after the fight hearns took ryder out of the armory and when asked he said that, and I quote " ryder is moving up to fight bivol". And the Morrell Jr vs rydet was agreed and just needed the signature. He has to fight Parker and jacobs and finally landed the lottery ticket, but he just needed to beat the Cuban for the same ticket. By the way, DMJ after the agbeko fight said that if not benavidez next, he would welcome plant and have nothing but praise for caleb, I guess plan B is not too shabby.
      You know and I know that the Morrell ticket was much harder to cash in lol. If we know, Hearn knows too. The road of a 'boogeyman' can be very bumpy, but Morrell shouldn't let that deter him. His team/promoter/network all need to reach an agreement that Morrell is someone worth building into a star, but fighting twice a year makes the process so much harder. Hearn said something about Ennis and Andy Cruz recently that may apply to Morrell: Morrell is a dream for a promoter to have because he can be matched against anyone and he'll probably perform well. Morrell is someone that a promoter can put their faith in.

      Last edited by kiaba360; 12-23-2023, 12:19 PM.
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      • #73
        Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

        What GGG did from 2012-2015 gave him momentum that continued to carry him for the rest of his career. If you shrink GGG's 2012-2015 from 11 fights to 8 (2 fights per year), it would've taken longer to resonate with the audience and he would've potentially missed his Canelo opportunity. Every 3-4 months, GGG was beating up somebody. I think Morrell would benefit from taking that course of action. Morrell is lucky that he's still only 25, whereas GGG was 30 by the time his HBO run began. GGG was a perfect storm: A fighter with the right amount of style/substance willing to fight often for small money, and a big machine that was willing to invest long-term time and $$$ to cultivate him. Either Team Morrell is being very picky about money/opponents, or PBC can't or isn't willing to prioritize him the way he needs to be. Morrell doesn't want to be 30 with less than 20 fights...frustrated with the state of his career because he wasn't more proactive while he still had his youth. Morrell needs CONSISTENCY. You beat up Agbeko, ok now in 3 months...beat up on Dirrell....in another 3-4 months...beat up another WBA-ranked contender....until your highlight reel becomes so extensive that the fans begin pressuring the fighters who are avoiding you. This shxt isn't rocket science, and the blueprint is there for all to follow.

        The average top ten guy is fighting every 8 months, and probably barely any of them are stars. THAT's the problem with boxing in a nutshell.
        I couldn't disagree more with the first sentence. Did it help? 100%. Would he have been a PPV guy if he hadn't fought those 4 extra times early on? 100%.

        There's barely any stars in any era. Thats just how it tends to work.The casual fans that make the difference between someone being a guy ppl gaf about or has some fans vs a guy selling $69.99 PPV's only have so much bandwidth for boxing. You are never gonna have ten 300k or more PPV buy A side guys.

        The problem with boxing is far deeper than activity. The fact 99% of fights are squash matches where one guy is 80% or more likely to win is one of the biggest structural problems with boxing. You can have guys fight monthly if you wanted to, but if no one gives a fook about the fights cuz they aren't matched competitively its not helping anything.
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        • #74
          Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

          You know and I know that the Morrell ticket was much harder to cash in lol. If we know, Hearn knows too. The road of a 'boogeyman' can be very bumpy, but Morrell shouldn't let that deter him. His team/promoter/network all need to reach an agreement that Morrell is someone worth building into a star, but fighting twice a year makes the process so much harder. Hearn said something about Ennis and Andy Cruz recently that may apply to Morrell: Morrell is a dream for a promoter to have because he can be matched against anyone and he'll probably perform well. Morrell is someone that a promoter can put their faith in.
          Let's wait to see if plant takes the fight, because charlo won't, or canelo give the ticket to benavidez. In the meantime, Morell jr can keep himself bussy fighting whoever wants to try their luck.
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          • #75
            Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

            Yup, and everyone saw what happened to those guys. Not a lot of callouts... Gee, I wonder why.

            Still waiting for someone to commit to a name that they'd bet on to beat Morrell. If they can't do that, the truth is that deep down, they know that Morrell is trouble in this division, and nobody is really eager to test him.

            Bottom line, people need to be willing to get in the ring with him.
            This reminds me of Napoles with Carlos Ortiz, and later around with Rigondeaux. Mantequilla was chasing Ortiz for the longest, and the PR didn't want to fight him so he moved up to JWW and won a belt, guess what? Napoles went up too and Ortiz came back down, finally Jose got fed up and moved up to WW and the rest of history. And we all know the Rigondeaux saga, ST+, mares, quigg and frampton all ran away from the Cuban, what a shame, he had to go up and fight lomachenko to make ends meet.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by garfios View Post

              Let's wait to see if plant takes the fight, because charlo won't, or canelo give the ticket to benavidez. In the meantime, Morell jr can keep himself bussy fighting whoever wants to try their luck.
              Look at what Opetaia did to Thompson and Zorro, three months apart. Morrell needs to do what he did to Caceres/Agbeko more often. If you need to pay the opponents a little more, then do it. Don't give the audience a chance to forget who Morrell is and what's he capable of.


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