Comments Thread For: Bill Haney: Devin Is No. 1 P4P; How Much Credit Can We Give Crawford For [Spence] Fight?

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  • elfag
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    #111
    Bill haney needs to shut the *** up already. devon weighing in at 165 in his very first 140 pound fight is a ***ing joke. their scale manipulation is unreal. Ok he beat a 35 year old who is 10 pounds smaller than him, well i guess that is an improvement because before that he barely sc****d by the last smaller than him 35 year old who was probably 20 pounds smaller in the ring.

    If bill thinks devon is better than crawford then go fight him, hell they weigh they weigh the same.
    Last edited by elfag; 12-16-2023, 10:29 PM.

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      #112
      Originally posted by satiev1

      lmao. He's hydrating to 160 lbs still. At 135 lbs he was rehydrating the same amount just not too 160 lbs. It's no difference. He was gaining 25 lbs overnight at 135 lbs and 25 lbs at 140.
      Yeah, he walks around at 160. So you don’t think he was severely depleting himself to get all the way down to 135 lbs?

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      • deathofaclown
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        #113
        Originally posted by Sheldon312

        The difference is Floyd defeated much better competition and Crawford has a lot of questionable wins.
        Questionable wins in what sense? His quality of competition? Then I agree it could be much better.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Sheldon312

          This I agree but it has to be taken in cosideration when evaluating how great a fighter is. Looking at the speed of Spence jab and balance against Crawford and compare it to the past and you'll see something was wrong with him. Now Loma? Loma looked lke a prime Loma against Haney. So if we're being honest, Loma > Spence so an arguement could be made that Haney should be rated higher.
          Sometimes old habits are hard for an athlete to break. Spence needs to grow up and respect his body not only as a champion but also as the professional athlete it is.

          He needs to leave those clubs, hoes, bitches and liquor alone because they are aging his body very quickly.
          He needs to stay focused, disciplined and spend more time In the gym.

          The lifestyle he’s living is was what helped destroyed Adrien Broner’s career.
          Last edited by champion4ever; 12-17-2023, 07:13 AM.

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            #115
            And just like that, Bam Rodriguez has overtaken Haney in P4P talks

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              #116
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

              Yeah, he walks around at 160. So you don’t think he was severely depleting himself to get all the way down to 135 lbs?
              He walks around a hell of a lot higher than 160. Look at dude's face when he's between fights. If he's 165 in the ring, he's gotta be 180-190 between fights.

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              • Sheldon312
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                #117
                Originally posted by champion4ever

                Sometimes old habits are hard for an athlete to break. Spence needs to grow up and respect his body not only as a champion but also as the professional athlete it is.

                He needs to leave those clubs, hoes, bitches and liquor alone because they are aging his body very quickly.
                He needs to stay focused, disciplined and spend more time In the gym.

                The lifestyle he’s living is was what helped destroyed Adrien Broner’s career.
                I don't disagree but I'm not giving credit to a fighter who defeated a fighter who clearly wasn't 100%

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Sheldon312

                  I don't disagree but I'm not giving credit to a fighter who defeated a fighter who clearly wasn't 100%
                  Fair play! I can respect that. We are just going to have to agree to disagree. However, the price that Spence has paid for the life he chose to live is all on him and should in no way detract from Crawford's overall dominant performance that night because it was a self-inflicted wound.

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                  • BillyBoxing
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point

                    They run into Crawford too much....They'll never directly challenge him because they know that phone called will be answered on the first ring. They didn't mention Jaron Ennis....a guy I'm not extremely high on but he is definitely talented.... Let's see if any fire comes from that smoke.
                    Ennis is too physical, athletic for Haney, he would outgun him.

                    Bud would punch through Devin.

                    Devin couldn't get a half shot overmatched Roogaroo outta here so he ain't worrying Big boys Bud or Ennis at 147.

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

                      It’s becoming clearer that Haney had to drain himself severely to make 135 lbs, yet despite that handicap he was still able to beat Lomachenko.
                      He was still able to get the win because he's THE young up and coming fighter, he's american, and they were obviously going to throw the foreigner, closer to retirement Loma (despite his popularity) under the bus in case of a competitive fight.

                      It's always like that in boxing 95% of the time.

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