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  • #31
    Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
    Throwing names in like Beterbiev is crazy. He never had to fight at 175.
    And had he not been throwing around Beterbiev's name, nobody would have mentioned him

    He moved up to 175 beat Kovalev, and dropped the belt. Then kept saying he wanted Beterbiev, would beat Beterbiev, then fought Bivol and got ass****d, then kept saying he could beat Bivol in a rematch but Bivol was "difficult" to negotiate with so he fought a string of mismatches.

    So while he never HAD to fight at 175, he's not a victim because people wanted him to fight at 175 once he had a belt there and was talking about a goddamn cruiserweight run,

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    • #32
      Originally posted by El_Maldito_Rey View Post

      Funny how 35 year old GGG is old and out of his prime, but Benavidez fighting 35 year old Andrade was the greatest thing since Ali/Frazier.
      The Charlos are garbage, what Canelo did to Jermell, he would've done to both of them at any weight class.
      Andrade is "a horrible" fighter as Canelo put it, and a quitter.
      Beterbiev and Bivol should've had a unification fight since 2018, but they get a pass, Canelo on the other hand, nah, let's give him sh.it for it.
      Why is that always the fallback for Canelo fans?


      Canelo doesn't need to fight Bivol or Beterbiev because they should fight eachother instead!
      Canelo doesn't need to fight Benavidez or Morell, because they should fight eachother instead!


      GET OVER HERE JOHN RYDER! YOU EARNED IT!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

        So while he never HAD to fight at 175, he's not a victim
        Nobody is saying he's a victim

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mammoth View Post

          Nobody is saying he's a victim
          You're not. A lot of his fanbase literally acts like he is every day.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pugilistprophet1994 View Post

            Lmao what is this?

            It is well known that Charlo turned down a fight with Canelo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxx2...ature=********)

            Jermell was not a player at the time and Canelo beat him when he was at his highest (undisputed coming off a career best win).

            He never did fight Boo Boo. You can maybe say this is the one he didnt take but Andrade also never forced the issue or beat anyone of note to suggest that he should take this fight. Canelo was beating everyone at 154 while Andrade was struggling with Vanes Martirosyan.

            How did he duck Beterbiev? I love Arthur but the dude fights once a year and is unifying the titles at 175. Canelo (as seen by the Bicol fight) is not a good fit at 175 and no one was ever calling for that fight.

            Bivol? Bivol went back and forth about whether he would fight at 168, if anything Canelo was giving him the upper hand by demanding the fight be at Bivol's natural division.

            This is a dog **** list. The only one I agree with is GGG. I think Canelo did wait too long to fight him but still lost that first fight. Besides that, Canelo has fought everyone people wanted, particularly at 154.
            1. Jermall pulled out of the fight recently because of personal issues. The same ones that kept him out of the ring for 2 years. He just came back, remember?

            The Charlo brothers have been champions at 154-160 since 2015/2016

            Fights with Jermell could've realistically happened at any point from then until 2018 when Canelo moved up to 168.

            Fights with Jermall could've happened at any point the past 8 years.

            You're talking like they could've only fought in the last few years

            The fight with Andrade should've happened because they were champions in the same division.

            How does Rocky Fielding deserve a show, but not a prime Demetrius Andrade?

            Who did Rocky Fielding or Liam Smith beat to deserve a shot?

            How is Canelo doing Bivol the "upper hand" by demanding anything?

            Bivol beat him already.

            If he was really trying to give Bivol the "upper hand", he'd fight him at the weight he, as the winner wants to fight at, as opposed to do what Canelo wants, which is to protect his belts at 168.

            And yeah, him and Beterbiev were champions in the same division at the same time.

            If he could fight Bivol at 175, he could've fought Beterbiev at 175.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

              You're not. A lot of his fanbase literally acts like he is every day.
              His fanbase is trash. Maybe the most annoying for the last decade.

              As far as saying he'd beat Beterbiev idk if I really care. Nearly every fighter says they'd beat everybody. If i held them accountable for it I'd be mad at everybody. Fighting Kov was an opportunistic way of getting a title at 175. I never expected him to really return there.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Mammoth View Post

                His fanbase is trash. Maybe the most annoying for the last decade.

                As far as saying he'd beat Beterbiev idk if I really care. Nearly every fighter says they'd beat everybody. If i held them accountable for it I'd be mad at everybody. Fighting Kov was an opportunistic way of getting a title at 175. I never expected him to really return there.
                He didn't say he would beat Beterbiev (well, he did say that too) It was the fact that he said that he called Beterbiev's team, made an offer and got turned down. Beterbiev, Ramsay and Anber all called this out as BS, and even said "send the offer now and we'll take it"

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                • #38
                  GGG is the funniest one.

                  “He waited too long”.

                  The fight became a thing in 2014, it happened in 2017. GGG blew up in 2013.

                  So according to Canelo haters, GGG had a whopping 4 years at the top.

                  It’s clear that the wars vs Dominic Wade, Steve Rolls, Curtis Stevens, Kell Brook and Gabriel Rosado softened up GGG.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                    GGG is the funniest one.

                    “He waited too long”.

                    The fight became a thing in 2014, it happened in 2017. GGG blew up in 2013.

                    So according to Canelo haters, GGG had a whopping 4 years at the top.

                    It’s clear that the wars vs Dominic Wade, Steve Rolls, Curtis Stevens, Kell Brook and Gabriel Rosado softened up GGG.
                    So waiting 4 years and hiding in a self made weight class is fine then, because it was only four years?


                    Being a boxing fan sucks, but it's even harder when other fans justify this bull****.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
                      I'm not the biggest Canelo guy but maybe the guys who think he won't fight Benavidez are just bitter haters?

                      The fight will happen. Stop whining.
                      The thing with Canelo, and fighters like him, who fight a lot of good names across a bunch of weight classes is that as you push yourself to do more than your peers, fans take notice and want you to do more and more. You become a target of a lot of haters.

                      You had a lot guys duck an “old” GGG, but Canelo fought him 3 times. Still, too old.

                      You had guys ducking Erislandy Lara, including Demetrius Andrade. But Canelo fought him.

                      Fighters at 154-160 aren’t itching to fight at 175, Canelo fought Kovalev and Bivol up there (so then critics want Beterbiev too).

                      Other fighters who don’t do much in their career, aren’t held to as high standards as someone like Canelo. And he isn’t the first, and won’t be the last fighter who will be subjected to these high standards. They did it to Floyd Mayweather as well, and even to De La Hoya.

                      It comes with the territory. His critics know he’s good, he’s proven he’s a good fighter, he’s fought a lot of good fighters. Even fights that were close or a could’ve gone either way, still, that just means he’s as good as the boogeymen that his critics and the media created.

                      It’s as simple as that. Canelo is in good company. They don’t do this to sh/t fighters.

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