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  • #81
    Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post
    This is nothing new. From the very beginning, Joshua has been protected, and the ONLY reason Joshua is not fighting Wilder on December 23rd is he's STILL not ready to step into the ring with Wilder.

    In a world where most people are easily fooled by the popular narrative and refuse to think critically, Joshua can continue to fool his fans into believing the false narrative that he has been trying to make the fight and these fans will parrot whatever they're told to believe.

    But it's a shame really, because I honestly believed that Joshua could beat Wilder in 2018, or at least make it competitive. Instead, Fury took his place in the history books, and Joshua went on to lose to Ruiz in devastating fashion and then lose close fights with Usyk. Wilder would go on to knock down Fury four times in a trilogy and continue to knockout or knock down every fighter he's faced. Fighters who at least had the courage to face him...

    Hopefully, Joshua decides to face Wilder in 2024...
    Joshua has been protected but? He has objectively fought the most top level fighters at Heavyweight out of all the top 4.

    Joshua in his 19th professional fight, fought the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who should of fought in his rematch 'Kiltschko had to endure 3 back to back training camps before fighting Joshua, due to Fury unfortunately continually pulling out of their fight;.

    The popular narrative is that Joshua is petrified, has been done for years, does not want to fight top level fighters 'It is inevitable, understand that Joshua is a Olympic Champion, two time World Heavyweight Champion. Whatever level he has been at in the sport of boxing, he has pretty much overachieved or gave it a good go at maximizing his potential'.

    If Wilder sticks around, if he really wants to all of a sudden fight Joshua 'The fight will happen'. But Joshua's main intentions are clear, and they are the goals which all boxers in the game should have? To become a World Champion.

    Wilder once upon a time, him and Fury both fought each other to avoid Joshua 'You knows, and every single honest man knows this',

    It is only now, Wilder has started to pipe up 'Since HE has bought into the popular narratives that Joshua is petrified'.

    Wilder was ****** out by Fury 'Tyson Fury mate, a fighter who has never been rated as a monster puncher. Wilder gave a good effort vs Fury 'But overall he was battered'.

    From my observation both Fury and Wilder are the fighters, if you really check their behavior 'They are all over the place, and that is what happens when you really don't fight at a level'.

    Joshua is no all-time great Champion, but he underrates his own experience 'Fury, Wilder do not have the World or Elite level experience that Joshua has. And I think that is starting to show up in Fury's career, and it may well unearth itself with Wilder in his next fight. But I will admit? I actually rate Wilder overall as a better World Champion than Tyson Fury, 10 defenses and he fought until there was no more to win his titles back'.

    Note: I don't think many top level fighters are afraid of Wilder outside the ring, you are speaking as if he has a Mike Tyson type aura 'In all honesty, Joshua would most likely **** him out, outside the ring' etc.


    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 12-06-2023, 02:07 PM.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

      This is a weak era. Andy Ruiz beat Joshua in the most embarrassing loss in heavyweight history. At no other time in history could Joshua or Wilder even hold titles.
      Ruiz has beaten quality heavyweights. Toney has beaten zero.

      You can’t compare Toney to Ruiz (as a heavyweight) much less AJ.

      Wilder and Joshua could have held titles during that exact era you’re talking about. Hell, Wilder basically did.

      All of this is irrelevant anyway, you’re arguing that Toney could beat the likes of Joshua which is frankly absurd and not based on any kind of reality of their actual respective heavyweight careers.
      JakeTheBoxer JakeTheBoxer likes this.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

        Ruiz has beaten quality heavyweights. Toney has beaten zero.

        You can’t compare Toney to Ruiz (as a heavyweight) much less AJ.

        Wilder and Joshua could have held titles during that exact era you’re talking about. Hell, Wilder basically did.

        All of this is irrelevant anyway, you’re arguing that Toney could beat the likes of Joshua which is frankly absurd and not based on any kind of reality of their actual respective heavyweight careers.
        "the likes of Joshua" lol. Anyway, Toney beat John Ruiz, who would beat Andy Ruiz.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

          "the likes of Joshua" lol. Anyway, Toney beat John Ruiz, who would beat Andy Ruiz.
          No, actually Toney didn’t beat John Ruiz.

          Yes, the likes of Joshua who is one of the elite Heavyweights of this era.

          Joshua has beaten about 6 or 7 people that Toney has zero chance of beating.

          The idea of Toney beating Joshua is laughable. There is zero evidence Toney could beat a top, elite HW. There isn’t even evidence he could beat a good Heavyweight.
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          • #85
            Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
            If Deontay could KO Joshua in one round - why did Wilder run away from Dillian Whyte for 2 solid years, and pretty much everyone else in the top-10??

            We might find out in this Parker fight...

            Don't buy it the one round KO. Joshua is a good boxer. He has had a poor chin his whole career. I do favor Wilder to win - because he is fast and *always* lands but it won't be easy. Especially not if there is 2 or 3 fight deal. *One* of those fights Deontay might end it quickly but not all of them and AJ hits hard too.
            Why are so many people rating Parker?

            Parker will get sparked inside 4 rounds with zero success of his own

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            • #86
              Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post

              This is a weak era. Andy Ruiz beat Joshua in the most embarrassing loss in heavyweight history. At no other time in history could Joshua or Wilder even hold titles.
              Going back 30 years, give us 3 better eras than this one, in 2015 - 2023. Just three 8-year blocks from 1993. Go for it.

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              • #87
                Wilder is 38 old inactive guy. he can`t do sh.it. parker will beat him.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                  Joshua has been protected but? He has objectively fought the most top level fighters at Heavyweight out of all the top 4.

                  Joshua in his 19th professional fight, fought the version of Wladimir Kiltschko who should of fought in his rematch 'Kiltschko had to endure 3 back to back training camps before fighting Joshua, due to Fury unfortunately continually pulling out of their fight;.

                  The popular narrative is that Joshua is petrified, has been done for years, does not want to fight top level fighters 'It is inevitable, understand that Joshua is a Olympic Champion, two time World Heavyweight Champion. Whatever level he has been at in the sport of boxing, he has pretty much overachieved or gave it a good go at maximizing his potential'.

                  If Wilder sticks around, if he really wants to all of a sudden fight Joshua 'The fight will happen'. But Joshua's main intentions are clear, and they are the goals which all boxers in the game should have? To become a World Champion.

                  Wilder once upon a time, him and Fury both fought each other to avoid Joshua 'You knows, and every single honest man knows this',

                  It is only now, Wilder has started to pipe up 'Since HE has bought into the popular narratives that Joshua is petrified'.

                  Wilder was ****** out by Fury 'Tyson Fury mate, a fighter who has never been rated as a monster puncher. Wilder gave a good effort vs Fury 'But overall he was battered'.

                  From my observation both Fury and Wilder are the fighters, if you really check their behavior 'They are all over the place, and that is what happens when you really don't fight at a level'.

                  Joshua is no all-time great Champion, but he underrates his own experience 'Fury, Wilder do not have the World or Elite level experience that Joshua has. And I think that is starting to show up in Fury's career, and it may well unearth itself with Wilder in his next fight. But I will admit? I actually rate Wilder overall as a better World Champion than Tyson Fury, 10 defenses and he fought until their was no more to win his titles back'.

                  Note: I don't think many top level fighters are afraid of Wilder outside the ring, you are speaking as if he has a Mike Tyson type aura 'In all honesty, Joshua would most likely **** him out, outside the ring' etc.
                  Hopefully we finally get to see Joshua fight Wilder in 2024. But he has a tough fight against Otto Wallin. I believe Wilder brutally knocks out Joseph Parker in an entertaining fight. Then I'm picking Wilder to knock Joshua out in March.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                    Going back 30 years, give us 3 better eras than this one, in 2015 - 2023. Just three 8-year blocks from 1993. Go for it.
                    why the last 30 years? Let's start with when I started watching boxing. Ali's first reign, Ali's Second reign, Larry Holmes reign, Mike Tyson's reign. Easy. You know as well as I do that heavyweight boxing has ****** since Lennox Lewis retired. Honestly, you AJ fans are pathetic.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                      No, actually Toney didn’t beat John Ruiz.

                      Yes, the likes of Joshua who is one of the elite Heavyweights of this era.

                      Joshua has beaten about 6 or 7 people that Toney has zero chance of beating.

                      The idea of Toney beating Joshua is laughable. There is zero evidence Toney could beat a top, elite HW. There isn’t even evidence he could beat a good Heavyweight.
                      Sure, they vacated the decision, but anybody with eyes saw James Toney win the heavyweight belt. Just accept your guy is a domestic level has been, who won his belt from the actual worst heavyweight champion, Charles Martin.

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