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Originally posted by Sammy7861992 View Post
I don't understand why everyone is shutting on AJ , to me his technique and defence looks alot better , I agree with u
Joshua is technically more fundamentally sound than Tyson Fury 'Joshua does not make the same number of unforced errors as Fury, and Wilder'.
If Joshua fought Wilder, and wanted to fight a defensive fight 'I honestly believe Wilder, would have a more difficult time trying to deck Joshua, than he did with Fury'.
But I will admit? That is still not entirely the correct tactics that Joshua must use vs Wilder 'Joshua is the most powerful puncher Wilder would of ever fought, and I think Joshua needs to utilize this attribute. The way Lennox Lewis fought Hasim Rahman, I would say that is the type of tactical boxing Joshua should use vs Wilder 'Measured aggression, with strong fundamental technique'.
Tyson Fury whether he tried to out box Wilder or move forward against him 'Was always at some point going to be whacked hard. Because for all of Tyson Fury's abilities, he is innately a extremely clumsy fighter who is prone to making unforced errors'.
Nobody can sit here and say? Joshua is a clumsy fighter, he is all over the place 'Joshua just in general is a superior athlete to Tyson Fury'.
Note: Anyone who has watched Fury's entire career will know? There are always moments of complete technically calamity in his fights, the same way there was with Amir Khan 'There will be moments were his fundamentals will completely dissipate'.
It was Peter Fury who refined this area of Fury's game, but since leaving Peter Fury? That side of Fury's game has decreased, and the clumsy kid has started to show more etc.
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Originally posted by wrecksracer View Post
Yeah? I'll just point out that Joshua has been beaten so far only by smaller men. I don't know why you have such a high opinion of a guy who has been beaten in such a weak era by smaller men. Toney, Jones, Spinks, and John Ruiz would beat AJ with ease. He just isn't that good. I mean....you saw the first Andy Ruiz fight. That wasn't a lucky punch.
Tell me about Holmes and losing twice to a LH in Spinks too while you're there. Give me another good laugh.
AJ clearly had problems in the first Ruiz fight and wanted to get it over with when he knocked him down. You don't swing like that standing square-on with a shorter opponent with faster hands. But everything was sorted by the rematch which is why he dominated him with ease. Just like John McDermott dominated Tyson Fury in the first fight 9-1 in a 10 round fight. Then look at what a 50% and a 70% version of Fury did to a prime Wilder in fights 1 and 3. Now that is shlte. That's before we even get to Fury vs Ngannou who did much better than Wilder ever did also.
Being shorter is not being smaller either. Ruiz weighed in heavier than AJ does and is a fully fledged Heavy. Learn the difference. However, delusion is going to be hard to overcome. Especially this level.
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Originally posted by paulf View PostAnyone with a brain knows this.
AJ is easy to hit and reacts to every punch landed on him.
Wilder is trash but he punches like a mule's kick.
Unwinnable fight for AJ.
Ironic what you said there about brains. Wilder didn't even get most of the garbage he fought out of there in 1 round. But the absolute best he'll ever beat should he win would go over in the first round? Yeah, you don't know what knowledge is. Knowledge is fact based. This is fantasy. Therefore, not a single person can factually "Know this".
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Yeh, I was a bit vague. But I think usyk may have too much for fury, and I think Josh v fury will be be interesting. So I put Josh above wilder, whichever way I see it
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Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
Wilder wanted to keep going against Fury, but AJ didn't after getting dropped by Ruiz and having his eardrum burst? The only time Wilder fought a 100% Fury was the second go round. Wilder backtracked like a punk and refused to engage. He was stopped in 7 rounds without a fight. AJ was stopped in the 7th too but didn't stop trying. There's a huge difference. You're also pretending fights with Wlad didn't happen where AJ was the winner in a war. Then you add in the fact of who they fought and were willing to fight. One would fight anyone and has a resume to show that. The other refused and ducked his way through the division for years and has a resume so laughable, it's staring you in the face when you look at that awful shlt.
Yet you're talking about reasoning? In what way? An ironic way? Or in a Deontay Wilder way where delusion is the order of the day?
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Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
Apply this logic to Ali with Ken Norton and Frazier. 3 times to Norton and once to Frazier. Although Ali himself admitted he was going to quit in fight 3 had Frazier not been pulled out.
Tell me about Holmes and losing twice to a LH in Spinks too while you're there. Give me another good laugh.
AJ clearly had problems in the first Ruiz fight and wanted to get it over with when he knocked him down. You don't swing like that standing square-on with a shorter opponent with faster hands. But everything was sorted by the rematch which is why he dominated him with ease. Just like John McDermott dominated Tyson Fury in the first fight 9-1 in a 10 round fight. Then look at what a 50% and a 70% version of Fury did to a prime Wilder in fights 1 and 3. Now that is shlte. That's before we even get to Fury vs Ngannou who did much better than Wilder ever did also.
Being shorter is not being smaller either. Ruiz weighed in heavier than AJ does and is a fully fledged Heavy. Learn the difference. However, delusion is going to be hard to overcome. Especially this level.
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Careful, Carl. Don't tell the truth. It'll offend certain UK Muppets for sure. They think AJ is the best thing since the electric nose hair trimmer. But they thought the same about Ricky Hatton also.
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