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  • #71
    Originally posted by b Murphington View Post

    Canelo didn’t expose sh#t bro stop with the nonsense. GGG was the perfect example of a guy who people should’ve known about, and didn’t.

    No one even knew who he was until he was 30 yrs old and it wasn’t even his fault. If he had the promotional backing that that Canelo had, he would’ve had a similar career to Canelo.

    And if a boxer really wants to box someone, they can find a way to get it done. Especially someone with the popularity and clout of Canelo. He had the pick. So I I’m sorry. I just don’t buy into any reason or excuse from him as to why it took that long. He could’ve tried harder. Bottom line is he didn’t.

    I know GGG wanted it. He signed with DAZN when Canelo was with them. Why do you think he did that? GGG had offers from mulitple platforms. He knew he wasn’t getting any younger. It wasn’t by accident.

    He beat a 40 yr old GGG by the time they did the trilogy. GGG started showing links in his armor ever since Kell Brook had success against him back in 2016, and Canelo still struggled with GGG 2 times!

    Reason I say these things is cuz look at Wilder vs Fury. That was a trilogy done right. Wasn’t no 4 yr break in between the bouts. They both wanted it, they got it done. Takes 2 to tango. GGG showed he wanted to go at it again. Canelo didn’t. And that’s no bs spin. That’s just how it was and how it is.

    And actually now the rolls are reversed with Benevitez and Canelo. Just like time wasn’t on GGG’s side, times no longer on Canelo’s side. And the longer he waits, the more pressure will be put on him to fight Benevitez. If they fought 3 or 4 yrs ago, I’d pick Canelo to win. Not the case anymore.
    I don’t usually do this but let’s unpack everything you just said.

    gggs career and how it unfolded including his populairiy has absolutely nothing to do with nothing. He had his career to his path the way he did made choices and those are the results only has himself to blame but at the same time what’s to blame? Had a good career made great money and still has his screws on tight, great career. Zero to do with canelo.

    canelo started his professional career at 15 yrs old ggg didn’t. By the time canelo was 30 he was already a star. Again, different career paths but neither has anything to do with the others. Saying they’d had similar careers had this or that had happens is pure speculation and something we will never know because what we got is what we got out of ggg and canelo.

    canelo was the A side for all 3 of their bouts. If canelo chose to not fight ggg until he did he earned that right. My argument about that, was that canelo didn’t choose to vacate the belt when he did to avoid ggg it was to avoid the purse bid splits that ggg did not warrant. Simple. If take that as a duck or waiting him out, more power to you but that’s hard to believe considering they ended up fighting 3 times. Plus it’s always a business first, pen to paper before gloves to face.

    of course ggg signed with DAZN! Why wouldn’t he? His lottery ticket had signed with DAZN first so he followed suit. That’s a no brainer and goes back to my point about it being a business first. Why you think ggg signed with DAZN AFTER canelo did, not before but AFTER. Ggg would have signed with your mothers promotions had canelo signed with her first. He followed the money all while claiming “oh I fight for the people, Mexican style, in about legacy not business, blah blah bs” that all you guys ate up like meatloaf. Please bro

    ggg was a great fighter and anyone with that power, stamina, jab, and chin that he posses plus his underrated boxing skills will cause problems for anyone! That’s why he never lost to anyone not named canelo even though he had a few others give him close fights, canelo beat him twice!

    wilder vs fury isn’t the same situation though never was. They both brought in fans and money, with canelo and ggg, it was mostly canelo so of course he made the moves he made and ggg had to accept it. He still got 3 chances and didn’t do sh.it! After everyone was talking sh.it that ggg was a killer and he’d ko canelo, phuck outta here. Didn’t do a damn thing! Got his ass beat Mexican style and ran out the ring looking like Michael Jackson off of thriller.

    Canelo vs Benavidez is a different situation then Canelo vs Ggg. Again, canelo is the one older yes but he is still A side to David. So the same bs you were crying about that canelo waited out ggg or whatever nonsense you talking is bs. Why? Well the canelo Benavidez fight is perfect example why. So why hasn’t canelo va Benavidez happens yet? Is canelo waiting himself out? See how dumb that sounds? The only common denominator, well there is two, here is that canelo was and is the Aside vs David just like he was vs ggg. Also, it’s business first and That fight will happen, and he will put all this nonse you’re talking to bed once it does happen.







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    • #72
      Originally posted by b Murphington View Post

      I’ll add to the fact that Canelo couldn’t even KO a 40 yr old, shopworn GGG. Looked like a glorified sparring session I actually dozed off watching it. If Canelo “exposed” GGG, he should’ve KOed him.
      No one in the history of the sport has KO’d GGG. No shame.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Body the jab View Post
        I completely disagree. While Benavidez is finally starting to show he's a legitimate top 3 168lber, assuming Canelo goes on to beat Benavidez, I don't think it'll rank any higher than his win over Danny Jacobs.

        Canelo somehow rematching and beating Bivol - which I don't see happening - would rank far higher and do more for his legacy than beating Benavidez.
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        Benavidez tramples Canelo and his low work rate. what can Canelo do to stop the beating his gonna recieve. Exactly the reason why Canelo hasnt taken the fight. Let's forget about Bivol fight, because wether it's 168 or 175 Bivol beats Canelo everyday of the week and twice on Sunday

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        • #74
          Canelo could have vacated his titles. But he continues to hang out at 168. He created this situation. If he doesn’t fight Benavidez, then it will absolutely hurt his legacy.

          as others have said, he lost to Golovkin twice, and had the right man won both fights, we would not even be talking about Canelo right now.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

            Blah blah blah
            The ******ity here. We're not talking about Alphabet organization rankings, clown. EVERY boxing and combat sports writer had Smith as #1. All of the people who "know boxing", and do boxing analysis and coverage as a career, eg people who, unlike you, actually know what they're talking about, had Smith as #1. You can't even find ONE year in which anyone had Benavidez as #1. Before the fight, it was Smith, after it's been Canelo. Period, full stop, end of your BS. You can't find a single shred of evidence to support your fake narrative.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

              No one in the history of the sport has KO’d GGG. No shame.
              No one in the history of the sport ever KO'd Broner

              Not many had a safer resume than GGG
              Without naming Nelo, name someone GGG should have feared ?

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              • #77
                Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                No one in the history of the sport ever KO'd Broner

                Not many had a safer resume than GGG
                Without naming Nelo, name someone GGG should have feared ?
                And like the people who failed to KO ggg, their isn’t no shame in not being able to KO broner. What’s your point?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Robi13 View Post

                  And like the people who failed to KO ggg, their isn’t no shame in not being able to KO broner. What’s your point?
                  The point was located further into that quote !

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                    The point was located further into that quote !
                    I agree with you, ggg had a terrible resume. Has, broner has a better resume then ggg.
                    Last edited by Robi13; 12-07-2023, 12:08 PM.
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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Rayzah View Post

                      Benavidez tramples Canelo and his low work rate. what can Canelo do to stop the beating his gonna recieve. Exactly the reason why Canelo hasnt taken the fight. Let's forget about Bivol fight, because wether it's 168 or 175 Bivol beats Canelo everyday of the week and twice on Sunday
                      “Tramples?” Based on what? He couldn’t KO Plant who was making Benavidez look silly before he gassed. What based off Benavidez beating undersized DOO DOO? He couldn’t KO him either, doo doo quit.

                      For all the sh.it Canelo got about fighting Charlo, those same haters are real quiet about doo doo who really was undersized at 168, looked like a midget next to Benavidez and straight up quit as soon as the going got tough. He was 35 years old, what do the haters keep saying about Canelo? The 35 year olds he fought were old men, all of a sudden 35 year old Doo Doo is a prime fighter. He really was there just for a paycheck, especially at that age.

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