Does anyone here actually believe fury lost the ngannou fight?

[Lance98]

Fury looked horrible winning it. MMA fans now think that any ufc fighter can take on boxing's best and beat them and will lecture us on how boxing is "dead".

[hugh grant]

Fury lost the fight as boxing credibility took a hit. But as far as the actual bout, fury won

[TMLT87]

Fury looked horrible winning it. MMA fans now think that any ufc fighter can take on boxing's best and beat them and will lecture us on how boxing is "dead".

Nobody thinks this.

If anything its more of a wake up call to boxing fans who **** on the talent level in MMA.

[Dr. Z]

i rewatched the fight again. I had it 6-4. Besides the last couple of rounds and the knock down round ngannou wasn't landing much. He was walking in and and getting outjabbed and out landed by fury. People are just giving ngannou every round they can because he's an mma fighter. NGANNOU is lucky fury has no power and slaps his shots. It shows how weak this hw era is.

I had it 5 -5 in rounds with Ngannou scoring the knock dock down winner round three 10-8. So Ngannou wins

Fury is a fraud. His love handles did most of his movement. They bobbed and weaved all night long.

Ngannou has next to no boxing skills. And his boxing power is over rated by Fury fans.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Who cares. the fight was a garbage.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Ngannou won the fight, he decked Fury and inflicted the most damage.

Those are the area's were instinctively you win a fight.

If two men where having a straighter street fight, and one man scored and knock down and then inflicts the most physical damage? None of the spectators walk away from that fight, thinking that the man who was decked and busted up 'Won the fight'.

Instinctively that is how men scored fights, this is how we view physical confrontations 'Aggression, dominance, damage, skill'.

Now in the boxing ring? Yes Fury fiddled and riddled his way back into the fight, he deserves credit for getting back up off the canvas to fight on after being whacked 'But he was given the decision because Ngannou made a mistake of not pressuring Fury 100% after the knock-down, Ngannou should of in my opinion attacked more aggressively in that moment'.

The only way people can give Fury the win is by getting all technical 'But even when people go down this route, Fury only out landed Ngannou by 11 punches. So of those 11 punches, what damage did those punches do? Did they deck Ngannou? Did they stop him in his tracks? Where they power punches? No'.

Note: Fury kept his titles, he was whacked and then beaten up 'Got back up and fought his way back into the fight, survived then was given the decision because he was the Champion'.

Ngannou was very docile once he had Fury hurt, compare how Ngannou behaved to any recent top Heavyweight offensive fighter Wilder & Haye. Wilder is not the best technically, but when he hurts a fighter 'Then the follow up attacks are maximum aggression, near psychopathic levels of aggression'. Ngannou was extremely docile, and looked as if he was standing back to admire his work in that moment 'That was the one mistake he made in the fight'.

Apart from that Ngannou overall fought the better fight, he just was not given the decision etc.

[QueensburyRules]

i rewatched the fight again. I had it 6-4. Besides the last couple of rounds and the knock down round ngannou wasn't landing much. He was walking in and and getting outjabbed and out landed by fury. People are just giving ngannou every round they can because he's an mma fighter. NGANNOU is lucky fury has no power and slaps his shots. It shows how weak this hw era is.

- - That you would have Francis being outblubbered is proof of the shamelessness of you're and Blubber's Shame.

The utter SHAMELESSNESS of Blubber is going to grow if he continues to disgrace what had been a fine career until he was exposed as a Steroid user for the Wlad fight and the fight before.

Shoulda been 2 KDs when after being clocked, Blubber lurches to grab Francis by the waist to keep from falling on his blubbered mug, a common trick among lesser fighters. 2 KDs = a well deserved Split Decision for Francis instead of Blubber...

What is your personal BLUBBER INDEX....85%???

[buddyr]

I don't care if he lost or not. I didn't score it. The fact that he was dropped, hurt several times, and struggled with a goddamn MMA fighter says everything outside of what anyone believes who won or not.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Count me as one who thinks Ngannou has a very clear argument to winning the fight, and that the narrative that Fury clearly won is a bunch of nonsense.

First, Ngannou did all the damage. He outlanded Fury in power punches, dropped Fury, and was basically uninjured the next day, unlike Fury. The argument that Fury won depends on the notion that Fury landed more jabs, which is true, BUT boxing is scored round by round. There also were very few punches thrown, Fury threw only 223 to Ngannou's 231. It's very easy to follow what landed too.

So let's look at the punch stats and score.

Round 1. Fury outlands Ngannou 11 to 6, although they were equal in power punches landed. 10-9 Fury.

Round 2. This is the critical round. Fury outlands Ngannou 7 to 6, landing just one extra jab. But Ngannou lands the most significant punches, and opens a cut on Fury with an uppercut. Boxing is scored on effective aggression and clean punches. I personally value a punch that did lasting damage over a single jab. If you disagree, this is the path to Fury winning, but it is on the strength of a single jab. 10-9 Ngannou, 19-19.

Round 3. We all know what happened this round. Fury gets dropped. 10-8 Ngannou, 27-29 Ngannou.

Round 4. Ngannou outlands Fury in both power punches and jabs, 8 to 6. 10-9 Ngannou, 36-39 Ngannou.

Round 5. Fury outlands Ngannou 9 to 6. Mostly jabs. 10-9 Fury, 46-48 Ngannou.

Round 6. Fury outlands Ngannou 9 to 5. 6 extra jabs. 10-9 Fury, 56-57 Ngannou.

Round 7. They both land 5 punches. Fury lands 2 jabs and 3 power to Ngannou's 1 jab and 4 power punches. What should win? 80% power punches or 60% on the same number of landed punches. 10-9 Ngannou, 65-67 Ngannou.

Round 8. Ngannou outlands Fury 10 to 9, landing an additional power punch and landing the more significant punches to boot. 10-9 Ngannou, 74-77 Ngannou.

Round 9. Fury outlands Ngannou 8 to 2. 10-9 Fury, 84-86 Ngannou.

Round 10. Fury outlands Ngannou 6 to 4. 10-9 Fury, 94-95 Ngannou.

Note that many of the rounds were very close in terms of punches landed. The extra jabs landed by Fury were all in a few of his more dominant rounds, and Ngannou still kept up in terms of power punches landed. He did more damage, frequently pushed the champion back, and scored the only knockdown, and was never in any trouble at all.

If you want to give Fury the win based on landing one additional jab in round 2, you do you. But it should never have been this close to begin with, and the notion that he clearly won is obviously BS. Most rounds there was only 1-2 punches separating them. And I am positive that if Ngannou had been the defending boxing champion and Fury had been the MMA debutante, that exact same fight would have been scored probably 7-3 Ngannou with a KD.

If you think Fury clearly won, I challenge you to post up a detailed breakdown of the fight proving it.

[satiev1]

I don't care if he lost or not. I didn't score it. The fact that he was dropped, hurt several times, and struggled with a goddamn MMA fighter says everything outside of what anyone believes who won or not.

Ngonaou has been boxing for close to 20 years. His whole game in MMA is literally trying to knock you out standing with his hands. Fury has been dropped 7 times. He has a glass jaw. He gets dropped 1 out of every 4 fights he has.