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  • #21
    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
    Ngannou won the fight, he decked Fury and inflicted the most damage.

    Those are the area's were instinctively you win a fight.

    If two men where having a straighter street fight, and one man scored and knock down and then inflicts the most physical damage? None of the spectators walk away from that fight, thinking that the man who was decked and busted up 'Won the fight'.

    Instinctively that is how men scored fights, this is how we view physical confrontations 'Aggression, dominance, damage, skill'.

    Now in the boxing ring? Yes Fury fiddled and riddled his way back into the fight, he deserves credit for getting back up off the canvas to fight on after being whacked 'But he was given the decision because Ngannou made a mistake of not pressuring Fury 100% after the knock-down, Ngannou should of in my opinion attacked more aggressively in that moment'.

    The only way people can give Fury the win is by getting all technical 'But even when people go down this route, Fury only out landed Ngannou by 11 punches. So of those 11 punches, what damage did those punches do? Did they deck Ngannou? Did they stop him in his tracks? Where they power punches? No'.

    Note: Fury kept his titles, he was whacked and then beaten up 'Got back up and fought his way back into the fight, survived then was given the decision because he was the Champion'.

    Ngannou was very docile once he had Fury hurt, compare how Ngannou behaved to any recent top Heavyweight offensive fighter Wilder & Haye. Wilder is not the best technically, but when he hurts a fighter 'Then the follow up attacks are maximum aggression, near psychopathic levels of aggression'. Ngannou was extremely docile, and looked as if he was standing back to admire his work in that moment 'That was the one mistake he made in the fight'.

    Apart from that Ngannou overall fought the better fight, he just was not given the decision etc.










    this is just common sense. the guys trying to give the runner with the flimsy jab the win are his gay lovers. no other reason to give fury the fight.


    OP is a gay fan boy. there is no other logical reason he would post the idiocy he does.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by headshots View Post




      this is just common sense. The guys trying to give the runner with the flimsy jab the win are his gay lovers. No other reason to give fury the fight.


      Op is a gay fan boy. There is no other logical reason he would post the idiocy he does.
      NEGATIVE. I've always said Fury is a glass jaw hw in the weakest hw era of all time.

      Right because we all know in boxing jabs don't count when the other guy is doing nothing but just walking forward getting outlanded. Your username is the eptitome of who you are. And you're a closet cuck. Hence why you always talk about blacks and cucks. You clearly have an infatutaion with them. Everyone knows it on this forum.

      No one in their right mind believes it was a robbery except for headshots like you.
      Last edited by satiev1; 11-28-2023, 04:59 PM.
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      • #23
        I had Fury edging it but it’s irrelevant because the simple he fact it was competitive, that he got dropped and even arguably lost the fight is a total embarrassment.

        I like Fury but there will never be a more embarrassing moment for boxing than this.

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        • #24
          I had Fury 6 rounds to 4 but if someone had it 5-5 and gave the win to Francis because of the knockdown i have no problem with that. I thought Tyson won the fight with his jab but all these casuals that are crying about robbery dont know the rules of the sport

          Even as a Fury fan i have no problem saying that his conditioning and physique are a disgrace to boxing and athletes all over the world

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Gaston View Post
            I had Fury 6 rounds to 4 but if someone had it 5-5 and gave the win to Francis because of the knockdown i have no problem with that. I thought Tyson won the fight with his jab but all these casuals that are crying about robbery dont know the rules of the sport

            Even as a Fury fan i have no problem saying that his conditioning and physique are a disgrace to boxing and athletes all over the world
            Lennox Lewis beat David Tua predominantly with his jab 'Lets get this right mate, Tyson Fury did not dominate or beat up Ngannou with his jab, Fury does not have a all-time great jab'.

            And it was not just casual fans mate, who had Ngannou winning.

            Many former professional boxers, all had Ngannou winning the fight 'Carl Froch being one of them. Many where fighters who have vocally praised and backed Fury for many years'.

            Like I said in my posts, the one mistake Ngannou made was not really pressuring Fury when he had him hurt 'Ngannou ether through lack of boxing experience, allowed Fury back into the fight. Even if Ngannou did not get Fury out of there after the knock down, he could of definitively in my opinion most likely decked him again'.

            But regardless, Ngannou fought the better fight 'Fury was the fighter who made more mistakes in the fight than Ngannou'.

            Note: The only real credit I give Fury is? After being whacked, he got up off the decked and found a way back into the fight 'But Fury still with all his experience and apparent skills could not make the fight comfortable for himself, or dominate Nagnnou. Hardcore Fury fans should be very concerned with that performance, instead of trying to make it out to be something it was not'.

            The game moves on, and Fury now need to prepare for Oleksandr Usyk etc.

            Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 11-28-2023, 07:50 PM.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by satiev1 View Post

              Ngonaou has been boxing for close to 20 years. His whole game in MMA is literally trying to knock you out standing with his hands. Fury has been dropped 7 times. He has a glass jaw. He gets dropped 1 out of every 4 fights he has.
              I've been boxing longer than that. I have amateur fights. If i turn pro now at the age of 46 with my amateur experience and take a top 10 guy the distance by winning rounds, that doesn't mean I'm an experienced fighter.

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              • #27
                Fury didn't lose. But he certainly didn't win it convincingly and dominantly like he should have.

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                • #28
                  Fury won because its scored by rounds and he won more rounds even with the knockdown.

                  Doesnt tell the whole story though because those rounds, instead of dominating them against a guy in his debut, he barely sc****d by those rounds.

                  Hes the lineal heavyweight champion and he embarrassed himself against a 37 year old cage fighter who never even had an amateur boxing fight in his life. Fury's dad was a boxer, he had been training since he was in diapers, what in the ***.
                  Last edited by elfag; 12-02-2023, 11:28 PM.

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                  • #29
                    He lost it on principles.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
                      Count me as one who thinks Ngannou has a very clear argument to winning the fight, and that the narrative that Fury clearly won is a bunch of nonsense.

                      First, Ngannou did all the damage. He outlanded Fury in power punches, dropped Fury, and was basically uninjured the next day, unlike Fury. The argument that Fury won depends on the notion that Fury landed more jabs, which is true, BUT boxing is scored round by round. There also were very few punches thrown, Fury threw only 223 to Ngannou's 231. It's very easy to follow what landed too.

                      So let's look at the punch stats and score.

                      Round 1. Fury outlands Ngannou 11 to 6, although they were equal in power punches landed. 10-9 Fury.

                      Round 2. This is the critical round. Fury outlands Ngannou 7 to 6, landing just one extra jab. But Ngannou lands the most significant punches, and opens a cut on Fury with an uppercut. Boxing is scored on effective aggression and clean punches. I personally value a punch that did lasting damage over a single jab. If you disagree, this is the path to Fury winning, but it is on the strength of a single jab. 10-9 Ngannou, 19-19.

                      Round 3. We all know what happened this round. Fury gets dropped. 10-8 Ngannou, 27-29 Ngannou.

                      Round 4. Ngannou outlands Fury in both power punches and jabs, 8 to 6. 10-9 Ngannou, 36-39 Ngannou.

                      Round 5. Fury outlands Ngannou 9 to 6. Mostly jabs. 10-9 Fury, 46-48 Ngannou.

                      Round 6. Fury outlands Ngannou 9 to 5. 6 extra jabs. 10-9 Fury, 56-57 Ngannou.

                      Round 7. They both land 5 punches. Fury lands 2 jabs and 3 power to Ngannou's 1 jab and 4 power punches. What should win? 80% power punches or 60% on the same number of landed punches. 10-9 Ngannou, 65-67 Ngannou.

                      Round 8. Ngannou outlands Fury 10 to 9, landing an additional power punch and landing the more significant punches to boot. 10-9 Ngannou, 74-77 Ngannou.

                      Round 9. Fury outlands Ngannou 8 to 2. 10-9 Fury, 84-86 Ngannou.

                      Round 10. Fury outlands Ngannou 6 to 4. 10-9 Fury, 94-95 Ngannou.

                      Note that many of the rounds were very close in terms of punches landed. The extra jabs landed by Fury were all in a few of his more dominant rounds, and Ngannou still kept up in terms of power punches landed. He did more damage, frequently pushed the champion back, and scored the only knockdown, and was never in any trouble at all.

                      If you want to give Fury the win based on landing one additional jab in round 2, you do you. But it should never have been this close to begin with, and the notion that he clearly won is obviously BS. Most rounds there was only 1-2 punches separating them. And I am positive that if Ngannou had been the defending boxing champion and Fury had been the MMA debutante, that exact same fight would have been scored probably 7-3 Ngannou with a KD.

                      If you think Fury clearly won, I challenge you to post up a detailed breakdown of the fight proving it.
                      This summing up of the fight is spot on I had Ngannou clearly winning 5 rounds with a Knockdown, even giving Fury all the others there was only one winner. The decision about who won the fight was made when the Usyk deal was done though as then far too much money at stake, without a Knockout Ngannou was never leaving that ring the winner.
                      Last edited by hogey; 12-03-2023, 03:38 AM.

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