Why do people rate Filip Hrgovic so highly?

[W1LL]

HE did NOT fight Wilder in his first 16 fights! But he lost on a fair score card vs fat Jon McDermott and was kneed down by some score Russian On his 20 fight he was floored by former cursier weight Cunningham who was 36 I think at the time and winner is 1 or his last 3 matches.

Try comparing Hrgovic to Fury in their first 16 fights.

Tyson Fury was 23 years old when he had his 16th Pro fight, nowhere near his Prime. Whereas Hrgovic is in his Prime at 31 years old after 16 fights. Fury at 23 (Pre-Prime) had captured more belts than Hrgovic at the same stage and also boasted a better victory on his resume, a dominant UD over Dereck Chisora holding much more weight than a highly-contested decision over Zhilei Zhang. If you try to imply that Zhang is a better win than Chisora then I can't help you.

Zhang has done nothing but expose Joyce and Hrgovic at this stage.

Chisora was more hyped than Fury at the time and was talked about as a possible future World Champion. He still went on to make multiple World title attempts and has been in with Elite fighters, the only fighter who's been in with both Fury (3x) and Usyk. Has also fought Vitali Klitschko, Joseph Parker (2x), Kubrat Pulev (2x), Robert Helenius, Dillian Whyte (2x), Agit Kabayel, and Carlos Takam. Having reigned as British, Commonwealth, and European champion.

You're going to say Hrgovic has a better win, aren't you?

[Dr. Z]

@ W1LL, You do not follow my rules, nor do you examine where the fighters were ranked at a similar amount of fights.

[W1LL]

@ W1LL, You do not follow my rules, nor do you examine where the fighters were ranked at a similar amount of fights.

Why would I follow your rules, when they're designed to hobble people who disagree with ya? Muppet!

[tophat1]

His resume is solid as far as contenders go.

both as an amateur and pro

He gets bad press because of the zhang fight, buts lets be honest thst wasnt a robbery. He picked up late rounds when zhang tired. It was a close fight maybe should have gone the other way.

Lets not also forget how many people ducked him in the number 1 ibf contender fight.

[Marchegiano]

I found a gem on the forums earlier. Ironic too, because it relates to a subject which you yourself introduced me to. The BKFC! Remember when you kept bringing it up, the Police Gazette title, things like that? Back in the Bobby Gunn days. Well, I've been following it ever since anyway, probably watch it more closely than Boxing these days. Have actually gotten into the British domestic BKB scene, and there are some great organisations out there right the way down to the grassroots.

Anyway, I found a thread in which juggernaut666 claims to be making his BKFC debut in the Spring of next year. He looked mid-40s in the last video I saw of him windmilling a punching bag, and that was at least 6 or 7 years ago. He had one of those physiques, you know when someone has taken PEDs without doing the research? May have carried some synthetic mass for a short period, but got gyno and high blood pressure, got a roid gut etc? Haha! So I'm not sure if I believe him...

The thread can be found here: https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/n...-bkfc-fighting

Yeah man, if they continue to allow me to be, without banning and rebanning repeatly, I'll start that sort of stuff up again. I still follow BKFC and BKB is a great one, honestly some of the British domestic guys look like world killers. Hand of Godbeer was ****ing fun.

I would love to see in my lifetime Jake vs John redone. BK undisputed HW champ VS QB undisputed HW champ. IMO, that's way cooler than boxing vs MMA or whatever. Boxing vs the other version of boxing is the ****s.

See Police Gazette flex on Ring for Ring being a knockoff and kinda ****ty at it at that. Be cool. What even if the MMA publication? Yeah ... BK vs QB would be better. Just got to grow BK so it has fighters worth a ****.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Tyson Fury was 23 years old when he had his 16th Pro fight, nowhere near his Prime. Whereas Hrgovic is in his Prime at 31 years old after 16 fights. Fury at 23 (Pre-Prime) had captured more belts than Hrgovic at the same stage and also boasted a better victory on his resume, a dominant UD over Dereck Chisora holding much more weight than a highly-contested decision over Zhilei Zhang. If you try to imply that Zhang is a better win than Chisora then I can't help you.

Zhang has done nothing but expose Joyce and Hrgovic at this stage.

Chisora was more hyped than Fury at the time and was talked about as a possible future World Champion. He still went on to make multiple World title attempts and has been in with Elite fighters, the only fighter who's been in with both Fury (3x) and Usyk. Has also fought Vitali Klitschko, Joseph Parker (2x), Kubrat Pulev (2x), Robert Helenius, Dillian Whyte (2x), Agit Kabayel, and Carlos Takam. Having reigned as British, Commonwealth, and European champion.

You're going to say Hrgovic has a better win, aren't you?

Hrgovic has a better resume now, than Fury did prior to his fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko.

Chisora was never really spoken of as being destined for a World Championship title.

You could see early on in Chisora career, the type of fighter he was 'Solid, game, a elite level journey man of sorts'.

Hrgovic is a Olympic Bronze medalist, Fury did not even make any Olympic team 'And his best achievement as a amateur is being beaten by David Price over the distance'.

Nobody rates Hrgovic super highly, but the fact is? Hrgovic is one of the top Heavyweights in the game currently.

I personally would not rate Hrgovic along the top-4 heavyweights, but he is one of the top fighters in the chasing pack.

Note: Only David Haye and Dillian Whyte have met Chisora head on and canceled out his moment. David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, was the first fighter to knock Derek Chisora out 'Tyson Fury in comparison, even though Chisora is stylistically one of the best match ups for him? Has never decked or legitimately knocked out Derek Chisora'.

I highlighted Fury's last fight vs Chisora as a concern 'Fury was unable to deck, and refused to fight a semi-retired miles out of condition Chisora head on. If the referee would not of intervened and manufactured a stoppage, Chisora most likely would of survived the full 12 rounds'.

I have suspected that Fury form in his fights vs Wilder III, Whyte and Chisora III has been decreasing 'I have been one if not the only individual at least around here, who has continually highlighted and theorized this situation'.

If Hrgovic was Fury's next opponent, you would be apprehensive 'I watched Fury's hardcore fans being all apprehensive for his fight vs Dillian Whyte, and celebrate as if it was some sort of all-time great victory. That type of behavior says a lot of what Fury's hardcore fans really believe about Fury's abilities and current form'.

If you guys are ever honest with yourselves, deep down you all just want to protect Fury 'Maybe you know that he is there for the taking, in the right kind of stylistic fight'.

Threads like this are just one of the tactics Fury's hardcore fans use to demean a potential contender of Fury 'I was also again one of the first individuals to detect and charted this behavior on a mass scale'.

Fury's hardcore fans will attack and demean the characters of Fury's potential contenders 'In order to devalue and eliminate them as being considered a actual threat. Once enough people agree or buy into those narratives created, Fury's hardcore fans act as if Fury has achieved some sort of mystical dominance within the Heavyweight Division'.

I could go on, but this is just one of the classic sociopolitical tactics used by hardcore Fury fans in this thread 'Other threads and the general boxing World'.

Note: I am unsure whether you are fully aware of why you are using those tactics, I have not dismissed the possibility that you may have been influenced on some sort of level etc.

[W1LL]

Hrgovic has a better resume now, than Fury did prior to his fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko.

Chisora was never really spoken of as being destined for a World Championship title.

You could see early on in Chisora career, the type of fighter he was 'Solid, game, a elite level journey man of sorts'.

Hrgovic is a Olympic Bronze medalist, Fury did not even make any Olympic team 'And his best achievement as a amateur is being beaten by David Price over the distance'.

Nobody rate Hrgovic super highly, but the fact is? Hrgovic is one of the top Heavyweights in the game currently.

I personally would not rate Hrgovic along the top-4 heavyweights, but he is one of the top fighters in the chasing pack.

Note: Only David Haye and Dillian Whyte have met Chisora head on and canceled out his moment. David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, was the first fighter to knock Derek Chisora out 'Tyson Fury in comparison, even though Chisora is stylistically one of the best match ups for him? Has never decked or legitimately knocked out Derek Chisora'.

I highlighted Fury's last fight vs Chisora as a concern 'Fury was unable to deck, and refused to fight a semi-retired miles out of condition Chisora head on. If the referee would not of intervened and manufactured a stoppage, Chisora most likely would of survived the full 12 rounds'.

I have suspected that Fury form in his fights vs Wilder III, Whyte and Chisora III has been decreasing 'I have been one if not the only individual at least around here, who has continually highlighted and theorized this situation'.

If Hrgovic was Fury's next opponent, you would be apprehensive 'I watched Fury's hardcore fans being all apprehensive for his fight vs Dillian Whyte, and celebrate as if it was some sort of all-time great victory. That type of behavior says a lot of what Fury's hardcore fans really believe about Fury's abilities and current form'.

If you guys are ever honest with yourselves, deep down you all just want to protect Fury 'Maybe you know that he is there for the taking, in the right kind of stylistic fight.

Threads like this are just one of the tactics Fury's hardcore fans use to demean a potential contender of Fury 'I was also again one of the first individuals to detect and charted this behavior on a mass scale'.

Fury's hardcore fans will attack and demean the characters of Fury's potential contenders 'In order to devalue and eliminate them as being considered a actual threat. Once enough people agree or buy into those narratives created, Fury's hardcore fans act as if Fury has achieved some sort of mystical dominance within the Heavyweight Division.

I could go on, but this is just one of the classic sociopolitical tactics used by hardcore Fury fans in this thread 'Other thread and the general boxing World'.

Note: I am unsure whether you are fully aware of why you are using those tactics, I have not dismissed the possibility that you may have been influenced on some sort of level etc.

Comical levels of nitpicking by a man who ruined himself betting on Wilder over Fury. You do identify as a man, don't you?

[hugh grant]

Take no notice of the juggernuts of the forums hugh. I've followed Hrgovic since the David Haye camp where he gave a great account of himself and caused a buzz on the British amateur scene at the time. He is definitely a good fighter, personally, I wish he had been in some tastier matchups by now. We can argue all day about who ducked who, and why this or that never happened, but it doesn't change the fact he is missing out on being in the bigger fights. Anyone who would test him and answer some of the outstanding questions. Whyte, Bakole, Ajagba, Zhang II, Frank Sanchez, Jared Anderson? How can Filip go into fights with the Furys and AJ of the World, without this experience? His best win was against a Macedonian nobody's ever heard of before or since, and his next fight is against Mark de Mori. The same Mark de Mori who took a dive against a hamstrung David Haye nearly 8 years ago! Madness, and frustrating as a Boxing fan.

Yes, I do think flips fortunate to be ahead of Zhang in fighting usyk or fury. Although I do think Zhang beat flip, I do consider flip good as he has a win over zhang and survived Zhang best punches, whilst Joyce couldnt.
But I do think flips will do well against fury or even usyk

[Superbee]

Some guys here think Makhmudov beats Hrgovic.

I didn't "Think" Big Mak beats Hrgovic... I "Said" Big Mak obliterates him, period ... The Hrgovic that fought Zhang wouldn't last 6 rounds...

[JakeTheBoxer]

I didn't "Think" Big Mak beats Hrgovic... I "Said" Big Mak obliterates him, period ... The Hrgovic that fought Zhang wouldn't last 6 rounds...

Makhmudov that had a hard time with Takam?

Nah, Makhmudov is next Yoka I think. he will lose when he faces a living body.