Why do people rate Filip Hrgovic so highly?

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    #61
    I don't get it either - Filip sleeps in the ring and doesn't really have any impressive victories. He is good, but nothing really impressive so far.

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      #62
      Originally posted by W1LL
      Tyson Fury was 23 years old when he had his 16th Pro fight, nowhere near his Prime. Whereas Hrgovic is in his Prime at 31 years old after 16 fights. Fury at 23 (Pre-Prime) had captured more belts than Hrgovic at the same stage and also boasted a better victory on his resume, a dominant UD over Dereck Chisora holding much more weight than a highly-contested decision over Zhilei Zhang. If you try to imply that Zhang is a better win than Chisora then I can't help you.

      Zhang has done nothing but expose Joyce and Hrgovic at this stage.

      Chisora was more hyped than Fury at the time and was talked about as a possible future World Champion. He still went on to make multiple World title attempts and has been in with Elite fighters, the only fighter who's been in with both Fury (3x) and Usyk. Has also fought Vitali Klitschko, Joseph Parker (2x), Kubrat Pulev (2x), Robert Helenius, Dillian Whyte (2x), Agit Kabayel, and Carlos Takam. Having reigned as British, Commonwealth, and European champion.

      You're going to say Hrgovic has a better win, aren't you?
      Wallin was a prospect who fought Nick Kisner in his 21st fight or whatever before he exposed Fury and was robbed of a TKO .

      What are you going to say after Joshua demolishes him and a far more prepared version I didn’t see Fury jumping for that rematch in fact he went to great lengths to fight Chisora over everyone else around the same guy most Fury fans were saying he should retire prior to that fight ?
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 11-25-2023, 03:39 AM.

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        #63
        Originally posted by W1LL
        Nah mate you're just a never-has-been from America, who takes his frustrations out on other internet users. The majority of your posts here are either you threatening violence on other posters, or you living out fantasies in the combat sports world. You have made ridiculous claims many times now to be a professional athlete, to have wins over past and present fighters, to have won amateur tournaments, to have considered crossing over into MMA, and now you are competing in the BKFC at or around 50 years old. You are an idiot. Anyone here with a rational mind can see it. You have done nothing and you will do nothing.

        This thread is about Filip Hrgovic. I am one of the people who hyped him out of the Amateurs, remember well when he lost to Joe Joyce in the WSB. Since then he hasn't set the World on fire, but in the last 18 months, even after the gift decision against Zhilei Zhang, the Hrgovic hype train has started to pick up serious pace. I've witnessed it happening. We now see people claiming one of Fury, AJ, Usyk, and/or Wilder are ducking Hrgovic. He is being used to fill the void left by Luis Ortiz as the bogeyman. But on paper, nothing out of the ordinary has happened. The Zhang fight left more questions than answers, and his resume beyond that is very sparse. Doesn't make sense to me where the hype comes from, so I made this thread to better understand it. But it's clear to me that people either agree with me or disagree but can't give a clear answer as to what Hrgovic has down as a Pro to show that he should be feared and hyped as a shoo-in for World Champion status. Personally, I am still waiting for his career to catch fire. Seeing him turn his back countless times in the Zhang fight doesn't sit well with me either.

        The only times I have mentioned Fury or Wilder is when encouraging the trolls (yourself) to keep it on-topic. Grow up, old man.
        If you think he was given a gift decision that means you must think Ngannou defeated Fury which again means you have absolutely no idea how to score fights . I’ve already proven who I am on here you want me to do it again you moron ? I go at ppl who ask for it like I said your not fighter your a cheerleader so take a seat . Lol

        I could go on and on ragging on you and your own thread which a few have done to you on here ,one thing that’s absolutely funny when you create threads like this it always brings out the actual truths of a fighter and you’d think you learned your lesson by now the guy who says he’s been around a long time ,the guy who is you hasnt learned his lesson like a man child …and the icing on the cake your calling me old man when Fury looks about 20 yrs older then me ? is that you Fury ?Must be because just about everything you say is backwards logic and your avatar is a guilt of admission in itself as if your looking for a serious conversation when you yourself sabotage that just by having Fury as your choice ,even my cartoon character is more believable then that guy .
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 11-25-2023, 04:38 AM.

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          #64
          There is zero reason to rate anybody at hw very highly, to begin with. Give me one active heavyweight and I will sh.it on his resume.

          That is why I always laugh when casuals say Fury, who arguably lost to Ngannou is too good to fight Zhang and Hrgovic.

          Fu.ck of, all top 10 heavyweights are in the same class.

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            #65
            I think the general consensus is pretty fair - he’s an up and comer with some serious question marks

            He isn’t highly regarded or highly denounced. He’s just still a mild curiosity at the lower end of HW top 10

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              #66
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

              Hrgovic has a better resume now, than Fury did prior to his fight vs Wladimir Kiltschko.

              Chisora was never really spoken of as being destined for a World Championship title.

              You could see early on in Chisora career, the type of fighter he was 'Solid, game, a elite level journey man of sorts'.

              Hrgovic is a Olympic Bronze medalist, Fury did not even make any Olympic team 'And his best achievement as a amateur is being beaten by David Price over the distance'.

              Nobody rate Hrgovic super highly, but the fact is? Hrgovic is one of the top Heavyweights in the game currently.

              I personally would not rate Hrgovic along the top-4 heavyweights, but he is one of the top fighters in the chasing pack.

              Note: Only David Haye and Dillian Whyte have met Chisora head on and canceled out his moment. David Haye weighing in at 210 pounds, was the first fighter to knock Derek Chisora out 'Tyson Fury in comparison, even though Chisora is stylistically one of the best match ups for him? Has never decked or legitimately knocked out Derek Chisora'.

              I highlighted Fury's last fight vs Chisora as a concern 'Fury was unable to deck, and refused to fight a semi-retired miles out of condition Chisora head on. If the referee would not of intervened and manufactured a stoppage, Chisora most likely would of survived the full 12 rounds'.

              I have suspected that Fury form in his fights vs Wilder III, Whyte and Chisora III has been decreasing 'I have been one if not the only individual at least around here, who has continually highlighted and theorized this situation'.

              If Hrgovic was Fury's next opponent, you would be apprehensive 'I watched Fury's hardcore fans being all apprehensive for his fight vs Dillian Whyte, and celebrate as if it was some sort of all-time great victory. That type of behavior says a lot of what Fury's hardcore fans really believe about Fury's abilities and current form'.

              If you guys are ever honest with yourselves, deep down you all just want to protect Fury 'Maybe you know that he is there for the taking, in the right kind of stylistic fight.

              Threads like this are just one of the tactics Fury's hardcore fans use to demean a potential contender of Fury 'I was also again one of the first individuals to detect and charted this behavior on a mass scale'.

              Fury's hardcore fans will attack and demean the characters of Fury's potential contenders 'In order to devalue and eliminate them as being considered a actual threat. Once enough people agree or buy into those narratives created, Fury's hardcore fans act as if Fury has achieved some sort of mystical dominance within the Heavyweight Division.

              I could go on, but this is just one of the classic sociopolitical tactics used by hardcore Fury fans in this thread 'Other thread and the general boxing World'.

              Note: I am unsure whether you are fully aware of why you are using those tactics, I have not dismissed the possibility that you may have been influenced on some sort of level etc.









              Posters like W1LL are empty men in Fury's clown suits. I prefer to give the facts. The fact is Hrgovic is for now is one of the very few men in Ring Magazine's and Box Rec top ten ratings that is in his prime.


              Fury fans will shot down praise and attempt to destroy these fighters won't fight. I would absoltely love to see Hrgovic vs Fury. IMO Hrgovic would knock him out.

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                #67
                Originally posted by juggernaut666
                If you think he was given a gift decision that means you must think Ngannou defeated Fury which again means you have absolutely no idea how to score fights . I’ve already proven who I am on here you want me to do it again you moron ? I go at ppl who ask for it like I said your not fighter your a cheerleader so take a seat . Lol

                I could go on and on ragging on you and your own thread which a few have done to you on here ,one thing that’s absolutely funny when you create threads like this it always brings out the actual truths of a fighter and you’d think you learned your lesson by now the guy who says he’s been around a long time ,the guy who is you hasnt learned his lesson like a man child …and the icing on the cake your calling me old man when Fury looks about 20 yrs older then me ? is that you Fury ?Must be because just about everything you say is backwards logic and your avatar is a guilt of admission in itself as if your looking for a serious conversation when you yourself sabotage that just by having Fury as your choice ,even my cartoon character is more believable then that guy .
                I'm happy with the answers I got to the question. Some decent posters in here giving their opinions, and I can respect that. My opinion hasn't really changed on Hrgovic though. I rate him, but he hasn't done enough to warrant the recent hype. Cry about it Juggy.

                As far as Fury goes, this thread isn't about him. You came in here angry chatting chat, and you're gonna leave angry chatting chit. You attempted to derail a thread and make it about things you like to cry about. But you got dealt with, with ease. You should try a different approach if you want people to take you seriously, in life and on this forum.

                Do keep us updated on your big BKFC fight in Philadelphia. Good luck working out what it is you should be doing in preparation!

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by W1LL
                  I'm happy with the answers I got to the question. Some decent posters in here giving their opinions, and I can respect that. My opinion hasn't really changed on Hrgovic though. I rate him, but he hasn't done enough to warrant the recent hype. Cry about it Juggy.

                  As far as Fury goes, this thread isn't about him. You came in here angry chatting chat, and you're gonna leave angry chatting chit. You attempted to derail a thread and make it about things you like to cry about. But you got dealt with, with ease. You should try a different approach if you want people to take you seriously, in life and on this forum.

                  Do keep us updated on your big BKFC fight in Philadelphia. Good luck working out what it is you should be doing in preparation!
                  https://www.croatiaweek.com/tyson-fu...ight-champion/

                  It actually does involve Fury you couldn’t deal me anything unless you threw a pack of cards at me . . Lol

                  Do you have any reasons or you just chatting ****e as usual? Was your initial response to me so you want me to chat Shyte so I gave you what you asked for you had no real intentions of having any balanced conversation , it’s obviously a thread to make Fury look like he doesn’t need to fight other guys Mary . Lol

                  “Comical levels of nitpicking by a man who ruined himself betting on Wilder over Fury. You do identify as a man, don't you?

                  This is the type of responses you give others on here that gave you logical reasons as well , your like the kid that starts a fight and cries when he gets punched in the face which basically happened here . Lol


                  Maybe you like his win over Rydell Brooker, who was inactive for a year and fought Hrgovic in the midst of going 3-6-1 in his last 10 fights...

                  Maybe you like his win over Gregory Corbin, currently 15-5 with his most notable wins boasting 14-8-3 and 2-1 records...​


                  Yea this thread was legitimately wanting answers ? . Your one of the actual better trolls on here I’ll give you that at least you stayed consistent and attacked the few in here that actually gave you correct answers , I’d give better ones but an idiot only converses with another idiot on here .
                  Last edited by juggernaut666; 11-25-2023, 10:00 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by W1LL
                    His only notable victory is Zhilei Zhang, and that was a gift. He also won a Bronze at the 2016 Olympics and gave Deontay Wilder a tough spar about 12-13 years ago. Seems like these are the reasons people rate him so highly. Literally no other reason. Same old moronic posters talking in riddles with no real substance behind what they're saying. Gave BoxingScene chit posters the chance to change my opinion. Seems I was right all along, yet again.


                    Seems like I was right all along yet AGAIN ?????

                    And you want us to believe this was a legit thread not one to pat yourself on the back all you did was insult posters who didn’t go along with your nonsense , fantasy land is where you live . Lol

                    Alright I’m done here I’ll let you have the last word because your such a little Mary , have fun trolling .
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 11-25-2023, 10:21 AM.

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                      #70
                      Hrgovic has a better resume than Fury?! I wonder how to define it - is it hard, or it is easy to be a Fury hater?

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