Remember That One Time an MMA Fighter with 0 Boxing Experience Bashed the heavyweight champ???? LMFAO

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  • satiev1
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    #71
    Originally posted by YGriffith

    Anderson silva outboxed former champion chavez.

    The self proclaimed goat needed 10 rounds to get rid of an mma fighter that has a round and half max in the tank.

    The "best heavyweight" got gifted a decision against an 0-0 37 year old non boxer.

    Not a single boxer is lasting a minute in mma, and stop it with the bs that he was boxing for 20 years, he wasnt, he's an mma fighter that does mma.

    It's kinda pathetic that you have to put so many stipulations just so the boxer can get a win, first it was they'd get destroyed by bums, then top 20 then top 5 then champs, then oh pick another division.

    Pathetic.

    Enjoy boxing for what it is.
    LOL chavez jr who was out of the ring for years and a loose cannon against arguably the best striker mma had of all time. Both were old and retired.

    No one proclaimed Fury the goat except for m-orons on this forum. I already told you. The exception isn't the rule. You cannot use francis as a barometer. And yes, he's an mma fighter but he dosen't submit you or take you down. He's an elite level striker on his feet with his hands. That's still boxing. He's been striking for over 20 years.

    Tons of boxers did well in mma. Mercer koed former champ silva with zero mma fights. Holly holmes went on to destroy rousey after a career in boxing. Wrestlers go to mma because they know they can be sucessful. They'll die in a boxing ring.

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    • YGriffith
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      #72
      Originally posted by satiev1

      LOL chavez jr who was out of the ring for years and a loose cannon against arguably the best striker mma had of all time. Both were old and retired.

      No one proclaimed Fury the goat except for m-orons on this forum. I already told you. The exception isn't the rule. You cannot use francis as a barometer. And yes, he's an mma fighter but he dosen't submit you or take you down. He's an elite level striker on his feet with his hands. That's still boxing. He's been striking for over 20 years.

      Tons of boxers did well in mma. Mercer koed former champ silva with zero mma fights. Holly holmes went on to destroy rousey after a career in boxing. Wrestlers go to mma because they know they can be sucessful. They'll die in a boxing ring.
      See? Stipulations!! You're doing exactly what i just said.

      Besides, Ngannou trained boxing for one single year at 22 before stopping, and picking it back up at 26/27 after he immigrated but got proposed MMA, he picked it up the same year, and won his first bout by an armbar submission, he had a total of 4 submissions, way far off from what you claim, and the reason he won his last 2 fights was because of his wrestling.

      The fact you made up the fact that he has 20 years of boxing training when he barely passed the 10 year mark of training period just makes the whole situation even worse.

      Holly holm was a kickboxer who tried boxing, again, another false statement by you.

      "Tons" all of two or three boxers lol, you brought up mercer KO ing Tim after you claimed that silva beating active young boxer son of the kegend and former champ chavez jr doesnt count, because it doesn't fit your narrative, if you wanted ridiculous wins, i can just throw in Holyfield and roy jones, or even kimbo slice beating mercer.

      Again with the wrestler bs, how many boxers won a wrestling match? Wrestling doesn't carry over dumbass, boxing restricts their whole skillset, unlike mma.

      No one claimed UFC fighter could just waltz in and beat a legit champ, but the fact you keep adding stipulations whenever a boxer gets his ass beat makes you look like a chump and makes the sport look pathetic, otherwise we wouldn't be getting the mental gymnastics we are having had the Heavyweight division been as legit as it was supposed to be, more athletic my ass.​

      You seem just as brain damaged as the guy in your pic.
      Last edited by YGriffith; 11-29-2023, 03:18 AM.

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      • satiev1
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        #73
        Originally posted by YGriffith

        See? Stipulations!! You're doing exactly what i just said.

        Besides, Ngannou trained boxing for one single year at 22 before stopping, and picking it back up at 26/27 after he immigrated but got proposed MMA, he picked it up the same year, and won his first bout by an armbar submission, he had a total of 4 submissions, way far off from what you claim, and the reason he won his last 2 fights was because of his wrestling.

        The fact you made up the fact that he has 20 years of boxing training when he barely passed the 10 year mark of training period just makes the whole situation even worse.

        Holly holm was a kickboxer who tried boxing, again, another false statement by you.

        "Tons" all of two or three boxers lol, you brought up mercer KO ing Tim after you claimed that silva beating active young boxer son of the kegend and former champ chavez jr doesnt count, because it doesn't fit your narrative, if you wanted ridiculous wins, i can just throw in Holyfield and roy jones, or even kimbo slice beating mercer.

        Again with the wrestler bs, how many boxers won a wrestling match? Wrestling doesn't carry over dumbass, boxing restricts their whole skillset, unlike mma.

        No one claimed UFC fighter could just waltz in and beat a legit champ, but the fact you keep adding stipulations whenever a boxer gets his ass beat makes you look like a chump and makes the sport look pathetic, otherwise we wouldn't be getting the mental gymnastics we are having had the Heavyweight division been as legit as it was supposed to be, more athletic my ass.​

        You seem just as brain damaged as the guy in your pic.
        You keep using the The hasty generalization fallacy. Using one guy to make a generalization. Holy **** you're a moron. What the hell do you think Ngannou's main discipline in the ufc is? It's boxing. not kickboxing. All mma fighters train boxing. It's one of the discplines besides wrestling and jiu jitsu. He's been an mma fighter He employs professional boxing coaches to help him box when getting ready for fights. He hardly uses his legs. He's been training boxing with small gloves for 20 plus years. He's an elite level striker. Once again using the hasty generalization fallacy. Just because he had a couple submissions and took a fighter down dosen't mean he excels in wrestling. He's a horrible wrestler and grappler. 60 percent of his wins are by ko with his fists. And his recent wins in the ufc are all ko's. He's a boxer first.

        Ngannou has been training striking for 10 plus years. You don't need to train a pro boxing fight to actually train boxing. You do know that right? You do know that mma fighters hire boxing coaches you turd.

        And Clearly you don't understand mma. Let me explain moron. Just because a fighter trains in mma dosen't mean he excels in all 3 disciplines. Example. Conor was horrible in wrestling and submissions. He primarily relied on his boxing skills. Same with Francis. He's horrible in wrestling and grappling. He's a boxer first and kos people with his hands. The fact that they can wrestle and grapple dosen't mean they do it well. Their main focus is boxing.



        Holly holmes had 33 boxing matches. She had 3 kickboxing matches and she started boxing before kickboxing. Owned again you turd.

        Last edited by satiev1; 11-29-2023, 03:52 AM.

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        • YGriffith
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          #74
          Originally posted by satiev1

          You keep using the The hasty generalization fallacy. Using one guy to make a generalization. Holy **** you're a moron. What the hell do you think Ngannou's main discipline in the ufc is? It's boxing. not kickboxing. All mma fighters train boxing. It's one of the discplines besides wrestling and jiu jitsu. He's been an mma fighter He employs professional boxing coaches to help him box when getting ready for fights. He hardly uses his legs. He's been training boxing with small gloves for 20 plus years. He's an elite level striker. Once again using the hasty generalization fallacy. Just because he had a couple submissions and took a fighter down dosen't mean he excels in wrestling. He's a horrible wrestler and grappler. 60 percent of his wins are by ko with his fists. And his recent wins in the ufc are all ko's. He's a boxer first.

          Ngannou has been training striking for 10 plus years. You don't need to train a pro boxing fight to actually train boxing. You do know that right? You do know that mma fighters hire boxing coaches you turd.

          And Clearly you don't understand mma. Let me explain moron. Just because a fighter trains in mma dosen't mean he excels in all 3 disciplines. Example. Conor was horrible in wrestling and submissions. He primarily relied on his boxing skills. Same with Francis. He's horrible in wrestling and grappling. He's a boxer first and kos people with his hands. The fact that they can wrestle and grapple dosen't mean they do it well. Their main focus is boxing.



          Holly holmes had 33 boxing matches. She had 3 kickboxing matches and she started boxing before kickboxing. Owned again you turd.

          The fact that someone can be an mma champ with just a couple years of mma training shows how inferior the sport is to boxing.
          Okay you changed my mind, you can beat the heavyweight champion of the world to a pulp and get robbed with part time boxing and no prior experience.

          Again with the 20 years of training, learn math, dude didnt know what mma is 11 years ago.

          Holly holm started kickboxing at 16yo, her wiki page literally states incomplete record and you went with it, only a scroll up and you realize she has more than 20 pro kick boxing matches and won international amateur kickboxing tournaments

          And if you really want to be technical about it, ngannou applies a kickboxing strategy not a boxing one, all of his fights except for one make use of heavy leg kicks.

          Keep bringing conor but the dude has a karate stance using spinning kicks and ****, same with ngannou, dude uses heavy kicks and has professionnel kickboxing matches, no boxing up until fury.

          Both boxing and mma are inferior sports to wrestling, no one became olympic champ with 2 to 3 years of training unlike boxing if you're talking difficulty, if you're talking viewership and revenue? Yeah UFC is vastly superior.

          Again, enjoy boxing for what it is, boxing.
          Last edited by YGriffith; 11-29-2023, 04:00 AM.

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          • TMLT87
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            #75
            Originally posted by satiev1

            Pick any other weight class in mma and have the champs fight the top 5 boxers in each weight class and they would die in the ring.
            The fact you're having to stipulate "top 5 boxers" and "not HW" is in its self pretty sad honestly.

            I think Alex Pereira would have a chance at maybe getting some wins vs the current cruiserweight top 10. Some of the smaller weight class guys like Holloway could probably pick up a few wins over top 30 guys. Nobody is likely to "die in the ring" considering every top 5 boxer in every weight class has padded their record with plenty of boxers who are worse than those MMA guys.

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