Comments Thread For: Jermell Charlo Vacates IBF Title In Lieu Of Mandatory Title Defense Versus Bakhram Murtazaliev

[tomhawq]

This is different.

Unlike Crawford, Jermell VACATED IBF rather than deal with the embarrassment of getting stripped for ducking a mandatory.

WBO did strip Jermell for taking a circus fight - rightfully so. But that's only because Jermell wasn't with Arum (What Bob Orders).

IBF doesn't like Crawford too much, so I see why it makes you happy. This guy Murtazaliev has been mandatory to Charlo since 2019.

[tomhawq]

WBO did strip Jermell for taking a circus fight - rightfully so. But that's only because Jermell wasn't with Arum (What Bob Orders).

There's no denying WBO is in TR's pockets. But look at WBA, who's been Decubas' client since time immemorial. His guy Lara has been getting WBA titles easily. Their middleweight rankings are mostly in favor of Lara keeping his belt. It's full of nobodies. His other guy Morrell has the WBA. There's others like Ugas who miraculously got Manny's title because of Decubas. And so on...

[Combat Talk Radio]

This comes about due to their business model a part of which is not ranking fighters in other belt orgs' rankings - just another way boxing shoots itself in the foot

That’s only for champions.

Crowley, for example, is highly ranked pretty much across the board.

[Combat Talk Radio]

There's no denying WBO is in TR's pockets. But look at WBA, who's been Decubas' client since time immemorial. His guy Lara has been getting WBA titles easily. Their middleweight rankings are mostly in favor of Lara keeping his belt. It's full of nobodies. His other guy Morrell has the WBA. There's others like Ugas who miraculously got Manny's title because of Decubas. And so on...

Ugas got the title because he was interim. Manny refused to fight Ugas and chased a never-happening fight with lightweight Cryan Garcia, the WBA stripped him. That was up and up.

[tomhawq]

Ugas got the title because he was interim. Manny refused to fight Ugas and chased a never-happening fight with lightweight Cryan Garcia, the WBA stripped him. That was up and up.

Pac went with the bigger fish and multi-titlist Spence. So that's not enough for a 40 yr old man. I see.

[MusoMeanderings]

Mell will never fight again.

[trippleupper]

I have no issue with the IBF enforcing their mandatory, but I have issues with who the IBF installs as their mandatory, they mostly have weak mandatories… nobody in the world with a brain thinks Charlo is ducking Murtazaliev.

Not always that they're weak, more unknown?

That's one of the best things about the IBF -- boxers not hooked up with major promoters can still get a shot at the title.

[trippleupper]

I think this is something ALL of us saw coming. Either Jermell would vacate because the fight makes no money and/or he's going on hiatus, or IBF would strip him. Hopefully the IBF quickly orders Murtazaliev vs. whoever decides to fight him.

Four years in the mandatory position... has anyone ever waited longer?

[tkoboxingscene]

Charlo smashed him in 1 round. Remember?

No, ****. I literally just said if Charlo is only chance at a belt at 154 he is doomed. Do you have a comprehension problem?

[Combat Talk Radio]

Pac went with the bigger fish and multi-titlist Spence. So that's not enough for a 40 yr old man. I see.

No, that was before Spence got injured. That fight never happened.

Since Spence wasn’t available, the next was Ugas, as interim. Manny ducked it to chase Cryan, a lightweight. The WBA stripped him, as they should have. Because it was a blatant duck.

https://www.***************.net/2021...ved-wba-title/

Attempting to explain their reasoning, the WBA said: “Filipino Manny Pacquiao has been named Champion in Recess by the World Boxing Association (WBA) in a resolution issued by the Championships Committee.

“Cuban Yordenis Ugas was promoted to Welterweight Super Champion.

Pacquiao won the Super Champion belt in July 2019 when he defeated American Keith Thurman. However, he has not defended the belt since then.

As a rule, C.14 states, A. Boxers, their representatives, and promoters are obligated to “know and be familiar with all Associations rules. Rule C.13, B. A champion must remain active and regularly defend his title.

Within sixty (60) days of the mandatory defense period’s expiration, a champion is limited to fighting only a mandatory contender or leading available contender.

Rule C.27 states that A boxer’s title, status, or recognition may be lost, removed, or vacated for three reasons, loss in about, violation of the Association rules, or alleged criminal conduct found by a national agency.

Read the bold. That criteria meant that Manny had four basic choices: A Keef rematch (Manny refused), Spence (got injured), Crawford (Arum refused to pay) and Ugas, who was the interim and next in line anyway. And Ugas would have taken the fight in a heartbeat.

Manny decided to chase a lightweight. They stripped his ass. Because that's ducking. And we know why he ducked Ugas - because as we saw later, Manny had no chance against Ugas. All wrong.

Remember, Charr and Shumenov were also stripped at the same time, that was not an attack on Manny. The difference is Shumenov was legit injured and COULDN'T defend. Charr and Manny were just ducking mandatories.