You guys still think that Wilder - Joshua is next..

[Willow The Wisp]

AJ and Wilder care about money not belts. They’ll both look for the biggest payday available- which is likely against each other.

I completely agree. Money talks, bull**** walks.

I feel like you don’t want any of these fights to happen and wouldn’t rather just complain.

Always negative.

I completely agree.

I dont get people saying that they're likely fighting next because they're on the same card. What does it matter? - they still have to agree to fight each other, which still hasn't happened in the last 5 years.
people just want to see it at this point for the sake of it, just to say it happened. Its not really that relevant now, neither are champs, both are looking for big paydays before the end of their careers and have spent the last few years being schooled or getting the crap beaten out of them.

Before we decide how "not relevant" Wilder and Joshua are, I'd like to see the size of the purse each one gets from their December fights. I'd also like to see if Usyk can floor Fury 4 times, and Hrgovic (or anyone) sell out the O2 the way Joshua does, and will.

Big Baby Miller, who I'm half expecting to beat Dubois in December, juiced or not, has the best understanding of the most likely hurtle facing thhis era defining showdown when he states: “I mean, if you look at the last couple of opponents that he’s (Joshua)
had, guys on six day, 10 days notice. They don’t want no real threat. I mean, by the time I heard about him and Deontay I knew that fight wasn’t going to happen. That fight is never going to happen. That’s going to send AJ to the cemetery. Eddie’s a good manipulator and good hypocrite so he knows how to market the game very well and how to move AJ. But like I said, AJ’s got maybe one more good loss in him and then he’s out of the door.”

Anyway, after some inexcusable stalls, the heavyweight division is White Hot, and the world's following it whether they fork over the PPV fee or just read it and YouTube it a few days later like broadcasts.

[TMLT87]

the heavyweight division is White Hot

No ****ing way. We are in the death throes of a HW era that peaked like 5 years ago.

[Willow The Wisp]

The Wallin fight was made in the event Wilder loses to Parker .

Warren already said that’s the fight the Saudis are planning next if both guys win so until other wise it’s Joshua vs Wilder next year .

I don't follow the logic. Wilder's the only one being put in tough here. Pretty impressive for a guy who some casuals claim "avoids a challenge", right? I'd say it differently. I'd say that matching Wilder with the best feather that sits in A.J.s career cap, and matching Joshua with a light hitting creampuff is a means of hopefully allowing Joshua to bypass a highlight reel knockout at the quick hands of Wilder.
But it ain't gonna work.

[deathofaclown]

No ****ing way. We are in the death throes of a HW era that peaked like 5 years ago.

I agree with that somewhat.

Not that it peaked then, but 2019/2020, that's when it SHOULD have peaked

To be fair, we did get Fury v Wilder and that was great, but we never got AJ fighting either.

Now we've got Wilder in his late 30s jist out for paydays. AJ and Eddie basically admitting they have a 3 fight plan then out. Usyk is about 36 or 37 and won't fight much longer. Fury also in his last run of his career and cashing in.

Those are probably the big 4 of the era and all getting older and probably cashing out.

this era is pretty much over but maybe that's not a bad thing because I think the era coming through doesn't actually have any real potential buge stars which might mean we might get the best fighting the best because there isn't going to be a fury or a Joshua who can make money selling a stadium out fighting a Takam or Chisora. So the best way they can make money is the best fights. So we might not have the stadium selling fighters but might actually get better fights.

[club fighter]

Depends on the outcomes and the result of Fury/Usyk.

We all know if AJ & Wilder come out on top the $$ people are going to milk it and push for them to fight each other before they get a shot at the belts. Then there's also the fact that they'll probably push Zhang, Anderson, and Dubois the quitter into the equation.

I think the best thing about it all is that they're at least fighting each other in the division and that's something we've all been pleading for.

[Toffee]

These fights line up a load of possibilities. That's why they're made.

There's no single set of outcomes. It's all dependent on who wins.

But what we now know is that the Saudis can find a way (and the money) to get past promoter rivalries and network issues. You've got Matchroom and Queensberry on the same card. You've got DAZN and TNT streaming press conferences at the same time.

I'm always very cynical about big fights being made. I think those days are over now. There are big question marks about the future, but while the Saudis are prepared to do what it takes to cleanse their reputation, things will happen.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Where are you complaining?

You can't be serious.

I am very serious.

I just say that you guys expecting Wilder -Joshua next have no idea what are you talking about.

[FinitoxDinamita]

These guys aint no Mayweather-Pacman so I dont see why not lol. Boxing is already gone to sht and they dont have much options.

Yea they will fight soon.

[TMLT87]

I agree with that somewhat.

Not that it peaked then, but 2019/2020, that's when it SHOULD have peaked

To be fair, we did get Fury v Wilder and that was great, but we never got AJ fighting either.

Now we've got Wilder in his late 30s jist out for paydays. AJ and Eddie basically admitting they have a 3 fight plan then out. Usyk is about 36 or 37 and won't fight much longer. Fury also in his last run of his career and cashing in.

Those are probably the big 4 of the era and all getting older and probably cashing out.

this era is pretty much over but maybe that's not a bad thing because I think the era coming through doesn't actually have any real potential buge stars which might mean we might get the best fighting the best because there isn't going to be a fury or a Joshua who can make money selling a stadium out fighting a Takam or Chisora. So the best way they can make money is the best fights. So we might not have the stadium selling fighters but might actually get better fights.

I think it peaked in terms of the vibe, the interest, the optimism over it around then. 2018 AJ was still the UKs darling and unbeaten, Wilder was still unbeaten and stepped up to face Ortiz in a great fight so his stock was fairly high, and then Fury was coming back too. 2019 it started falling apart with Joshua ****ting the bed against Ruiz.

[NYG]

I think it peaked in terms of the vibe, the interest, the optimism over it around then. 2018 AJ was still the UKs darling and unbeaten, Wilder was still unbeaten and stepped up to face Ortiz in a great fight so his stock was fairly high, and then Fury was coming back too. 2019 it started falling apart with Joshua ****ting the bed against Ruiz.

AJ ruined everything by losing to Ruiz. He held up the entire division because he needed a rematch to beat Ruiz