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  • #91
    Originally posted by real raw View Post

    that's sound reasoning, but also just more of the same thing plaguing (imo) Bud now. Lack of prime, credible opposition.
    For now, seems like nothing even matters until they settle the rematch. Once that’s done, then he will have plenty of options.. or at least should have plenty of options available at 47 and 54. It remains to be seen if he will get them in the ring though and that’s another story. Good talk brotha, we shall wait and see

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    • #92
      Originally posted by dan_cov View Post


      I never said that and people are allowed to be wrong. Its only an opinion and nobody knows how far gone a fighter is until we see them in the ring. With all these belts, weight divisions, inactivity, cherry picking etc its easy to dupe fans or for fans to ignore the rather obvious. We also rarely get big fights these days so again very easy for fans to go overboard with excitement the odd time they are finally made.

      Its not my fault if a small minority who favoured Spence turned a blind eye to how poor he is vs southpaws or ignored his injuries, inactivity and such.

      And I don't blame them, it happens and I don't think anyone at all predicted he'd turn up in that state quite frankly, he looked awful so bad I worry for his health should he continue his career.
      Well why didn't he look like that against Ugas? I don't buy the health thing at all. A top level fight doesn't fall off the cliff that badly in 15 months. Between Ugas and the Bud fight, Errol had no other fights and absorbed no other punishment. What Crawford did to him July 29th he would have done to him in 2018, probably worse. Bud is not quite the fighter he was in 2018, yet he still destroyed a durable top level guy who'd never even been dropped before.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by BlackRobb View Post

        Well why didn't he look like that against Ugas? I don't buy the health thing at all. A top level fight doesn't fall off the cliff that badly in 15 months. Between Ugas and the Bud fight, Errol had no other fights and absorbed no other punishment. What Crawford did to him July 29th he would have done to him in 2018, probably worse. Bud is not quite the fighter he was in 2018, yet he still destroyed a durable top level guy who'd never even been dropped before.

        Ugas is really a solid gatekeeper type who was in the right place at the right time when he caught a few guys who was well, well past it.
        He is highly limited and has no output or urgency and is old as dirt. There was almost 16 months between those fights, a lot can happen in a much shorter time frame.
        He took a lot of punishment from Ugas & we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.
        Even against Ugas he showed a lot of signs something was off like when he lost his mouthguard and sort of weirdly switched off from defending himself mid fight.

        Any version of Bud beats Spence but I can not pretend like that was a great or even good version of Spence.
        Everything about that was alarming even during his ring walk.
        real raw real raw likes this.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by dan_cov View Post


          Ugas is really a solid gatekeeper type who was in the right place at the right time when he caught a few guys who was well, well past it.
          He is highly limited and has no output or urgency and is old as dirt. There was almost 16 months between those fights, a lot can happen in a much shorter time frame.
          He took a lot of punishment from Ugas & we have no idea what goes on behind closed doors.
          Even against Ugas he showed a lot of signs something was off like when he lost his mouthguard and sort of weirdly switched off from defending himself mid fight.

          Any version of Bud beats Spence but I can not pretend like that was a great or even good version of Spence.
          Everything about that was alarming even during his ring walk.
          If Spence had fallen off that badly, why was he even allowed to take the fight? Furthermore, why would his handlers even entertain a rematch? Anyone who promotes a rematch should be prosecuted. Crawford knows what will happen in a rematch and would rather burn 8-9 weeks training for a crack at a 154 lb. belt.

          It still amazes me that any sane boxing fan or pundit ever believed this was truly a 50/50 fight. I find that astounding.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Senor_frogs View Post

            The solution is simple. So what if he got stripped. He’s not gonna be fighting for the titles anyway if he plans to only get money fights or move up. And if he wants that title back he can always go get it from Boots. Idk what all the fuzz is about.
            All very well and good, but let's not pretend that Crawford is avoiding Boots when the man had his opportunity and passed on it.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by dan_cov View Post


              An entitled cherrypicker who is exploiting a very broken system and biding his time to do against the weak links of the divisions.
              Sorry, but this wrong.

              Various PBC fighters and figures openly said they weren't interested in fighting Crawford and Spence insisted on going the "easy route".I would also suggest that the likes of Postol and Diaz are better than people giving them credit for.

              Ennis left his spot in the WBO when in line for Crawford. He then turned the fight down when offered and is about to collect an IBF title on the back of Romain Villa and Karen Chuckhadzian.

              Do you not feel that Boots is exploiting a broken system?

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              • #97
                Ennis isnt all that from what I've seen. Crawford UD12

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Cobra Curry View Post

                  All very well and good, but let's not pretend that Crawford is avoiding Boots when the man had his opportunity and passed on it.
                  Idk if or when he passed on the opportunity to fight Bud but I’ll take your word for it. And if he did, maybe his team didn’t feel he was ready at that time. But that still doesn’t change the fact that he is his mandatory. And maybe they think he’s got enough experience to face Bud. The problem I have with Crawford fans is that they don’t keep that same energy for Bud like they do with other fighters.They were the ones saying Canelo was ducking him for not entertaining a fight with Crawford. And his fans were also saying he’s ducking Benevidez for not fighting him next and waiting for Benevidez to be the last fight in his contract. So I feel that they shouldn’t complaining about the criticism of Bud.

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                  • #99
                    A rematch between Crawford and Spence could take place at 154 pounds, which is the weight class that Spence desires.

                    Why?

                    Because 'Spence is the BIG fish', and is and has been in charge of things on his side of the street for the past five years.

                    Give me a break, he never showed up, and when he did, he got beat up, period

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