Comments Thread For: Joshua-Wallin, Wilder-Parker Heavyweight Double Explored For December 23 As Part Of Riyadh Season

[HeadShots]

No one else Joyce fought was supposed to knock him out . Zhang is his first actual true power puncher he’s fought so far besides Dubois , the shot Zhang landed was more timing and a short shot from the side Joyce never saw coming . Zhang is basically a bigger version of Ortiz as a puncher he doesn’t have the acculmulative stoppages to say he’s the hardest puncher , had he knocked Hrgovic down as well I’d give it a thought but that wasn’t a clean knockdown . Hrgovic actually knocked him down but the ref missed it .

Joshua , Wilder , are considered the hardest punchers , Hrgovic, Mahkmudov , Bakole and Zhang can all punch all those guys have heavier hands then Wilder but hitting harder is different . It’s impossible to say who hits harder out if them they punch differently,in terms of just raw power I’d take Mahkmudov outside Joshua and Wilder on the eye test if he hits you clean he struggles in spot’s because he’s not as swift setting punches up .

all your points are ******.



imagine thinking Dubois is not a power puncher. LMFAO

dude should be unified heavyweight champ rn


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[Toffee]

Deontay Wilder has been in the same position as Fury since their trilogy 'Wilder vs Parker needs for me to prove that his current form is still top level' etc.

Did any version of Wilder prove he was top level?

I'm still not convinced. His best is Ortiz and a draw against Fury.

This is why mandatories are important. It forces champions to fight ranked guys who they didn't hand pick. No mandatories, no credibility.

[juggernaut666]

all your points are ******.



imagine thinking Dubois is not a power puncher. LMFAO

dude should be unified heavyweight champ rn


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“Zhang is his first actual true power puncher he’s fought so far besides Dubois “

I guess reading isn’t your thing ? Either that or my post is to intelligently formed for you and I’ll dumb it down a bit ?

Besides that your a fool if you think Usyk wouldn’t have got up if he was getting counted on next you’ll tell me Zhang is a bigger body puncher then DDD right even though body punching is a seperate category unless you think everyone punches to the body the same ?

[SinderellaMan]

"We're not looking past Washington, but I do like looking though my opponents as if I'm window shopping a little bit, looking through the glass at something I want and I can't get it right now because I've got a job to do first," Wilder said. "So once I beat Washington we really want Parker to get the WBO title so that will leave me with the WBC and the WBO and then [Wladimir] Klitschko and [Anthony] Joshua are fighting for the IBF and the WBA [on April 29]. So at the end of the year you put your two [belts] up, I'll put my two up and we can unify the whole division." D . Wilder


There’s two men that I want so bad, and it’s Anthony Joshua and Joseph Parker,” Wilder said. “I wanna unify the division so bad. That’s my ultimate goal. I don’t care about how much money it is, the buildup, this and that – that all plays a part in it. But my sole feeling is I want those belts. I wanna unify, but I don’t think these guys wanna do the same thing. They talk the talk, but they don’t wanna walk it. Especially with Joseph Parker. He came and said he wants the best and all this.

“He even came to my fight for nothing, but he really don’t want that. He is no threat at all. He’s not a dangerous fighter. He’s at the bottom of the champions that’s fighting second-tier fighters. He wanna stay out of harm’s way for as long as possible and it’s sad. But I want both of those guys, man. I want them so bad to unify this division. That’s all I wanna do is unify. And then, after that everybody can line up.” Also D.Wilder

He has been urging Parker for a unification fight for months and that has ramped up over the last fortnight as the Kiwi prepares to tackle Razvan Cojanu, with the big Romanian a late replacement for Britain's Hughie Fury who withdrew citing a back injury.

Wilder said all that months earlier knowing Hughie Fury was Parkers mandatory which was schedulled May 6th which came out March 6th 2017 . Cojanu was the late replacement .

In July 2017 Stiverne became Wilders mandatory anyway ,Wilder didn’t fight Stiverne until 9 months afterwards ,all he did was keep calling out guys even though he had his own mandatory .

Read the quotes carefully because that’s all he’s been saying from day one . Lol


The rest is history Parker got the big Joshua fight in 2018 and Wilder went after what he thought was an easier fight Ortiz , no,one ducked Wilder , no one ever has unless there would have been an option for Joshua the much bigger pay day , Ortiz is an exception he took the Wilder fight for 500K instead of a ball park area of 4/5 million to fight Joshua but Ortiz isn’t the brightest star in the skies concerning intelligence .

Man, you typed up a novel.
After all these years, you are still using your flawed logic.
Wilder ain't afraid of Parker.
I will put all my points on Wilder when they fight if you are so confident

[juggernaut666]

Man, you typed up a novel.
After all these years, you are still using your flawed logic.
Wilder ain't afraid of Parker.
I will put all my points on Wilder when they fight if you are so confident

There is no flawed logic . Wilder callouts are just that and almost always bc he’s involved in other fights . He swerved Parker bc he knew Stiverne was a guaranteed win and milked it for 9 months without having to fight . It’s not about who’s scared it’s about who’s actually looking fir the fights and we see who that is because it shows it on a resume .

What happens now is irrelevant it’s like rewarding someone for doing their job in the first place he should have been fighting Parker level guys consistently throughout his career but he hasn’t .

[PRINCEKOOL]

Did any version of Wilder prove he was top level?

I'm still not convinced. His best is Ortiz and a draw against Fury.

This is why mandatories are important. It forces champions to fight ranked guys who they didn't hand pick. No mandatories, no credibility.

In terms of being dangerous, Wilder is a top level danger in the game 'The danger element has taken him a long way in the game'.

When Tyson Fury beat Deontay Wilder, when Fury got up off the deck 'I honestly think that Danger element of Wilder took a hit. Lets also factor in that Wilder was ****** out by Fury in the third fight'.

The best wins of this Heavyweights era that any Heavyweight has achieved are:

Fury's win vs Kiltschko.
Joshua's win vs Kiltschko.
Fury's win vs Wilder 2.
Wilder's win vs Ortiz 1 & 2.

So I would say that Wilder has proven himself to be a top level fighter in the past. But he has been tested less, and is not as proven 'At this level compared to Anthony Joshua'.

Wilder vs Fury III, that fight I have never regarded as a high level fight 'For all we know, we were watching two fighters not really in great form but in a good fight'. Well I know what I saw, two fighters all over the place making unforced errors 'Both right there to be ****** out, from very early on in the fight'.

Joshua vs Usyk I & II skill for skill was a higher level Heavyweight match up than Wilder vs Fury I, II, & III.

Since Fury vs Kiltschko, Joshua vs Uysk I & II has been the highest level match up that has happened within the Heavyweight Division.

This level of match up skill for skill will only be potentially surpassed when and if Tyson Fury fights Oleksandr Uysk.

Note: But back to Deontay Wilder, I believe this fight vs Parker 'Is a fight were he must prove he is still a top level fighter. If Parker survives the full 12 rounds, or pushes Wilder then a lot of Wilder's reputation takes a hit' etc.

[Mr Giggles]

All fighters and promoters have now arrived at the press conference, however there is no live stream found on YouTube as of yet. All very bizarre! Looks like it won’t be streamed live!

[Mr Giggles]

I’ve managed to find it! It’s on DAZN Boxing YouTube page!

[Toffee]

The best wins of this Heavyweights era that any Heavyweight has achieved are:

Fury's win vs Kiltschko.
Joshua's win vs Kiltschko.
Fury's win vs Wilder 2.
Wilder's win vs Ortiz 1 & 2.

I would have Usyk's wins against Joshua. And Ruiz win against Joshua. And Joshua's win against Ruiz.

All rated as better wins than beating Ortiz who beat no-one.

I don't doubt Wilder's danger element. We just never saw if it carried through to bring able to win at the top level.

[greeneye99]

Fight prediction. Beyoncé Wilder won’t go near Parker because he knows he will get his head bashed in. Not a chance this fight goes ahead.

Man What a Horrible Prediction!!
Lol
That Fight is signed off for December.......