Comments Thread For: Joshua-Wallin, Wilder-Parker Heavyweight Double Explored For December 23 As Part Of Riyadh Season

[PRINCEKOOL]

AJ just trying to sugar coat his legacy and Eddie trying to protect his fighter from getting brutally KOd… ‘only 3 time world champ alongside Muhammad Ali’ no doubt Eddie Hearn starts comparing him to Ali afterwards.


Hrgovic is terrible, comfortably lost to zhang who is the only decent fighter he has faced, and he gasses out second half of the fight, AJ will beat him.

Joshua's legacy is that, he is a top fighter of his era 'And is still competing to be the best of his generation, there is still a path were he can reign as the last man standing from this era'.

No fighter in this generation can be compared to Muhammad Ali, statistically in terms of their feats of achievement or overall impact.

Note: Hrgovic is a top level fight mate, if he was such a easy route then he would not be unbeaten 'Wallin, Hrgovic those are some of the fighters Joshua's critics have been calling for him to fight. Apparently Joshua has been terrified of those fighters' etc.

[juggernaut666]

Joshua's legacy is that, he is a top fighter of his era 'And is still competing to be the best of his generation, there is still a path were he can reign as the last man standing from this era'.

No fighter in this generation can be compared to Muhammad Ali, statistically in terms of their feats of achievement or overall impact.

Note: Hrgovic is a top level fight mate, if he was such a easy route then he would not be unbeaten 'Wallin, Hrgovic those are some of the fighters Joshua's critics have been calling for him to fight. Apparently Joshua has been terrified of those fighters' etc.

Joshua shares a very important thing with Ali . They both became champions in their 4th year , and Joshua and Ali both became champions in their 19th and 20th fight so Joshua actually became a champion sooner per fight by one fight with multiple titles as well like Ali . That is a feat in itself and against very top quality, the Klitchko win would rank over the Liston one , Klitchko was still obviously a high operating athlete while Liston was very slow and injury prone .he looked old .

[Willow The Wisp]

Usyk
Joshua
Hrgovic
Fury
zhang

Im not putting Wilder in without fighting any of these guys and winning .

Joyce was my 5th but Zhang took his spot . Parker has no wins recently against meaningful fighters to put him in top 5 .


Im not even sold on Zhang I think Mahkmudov probably knocks him out but he’s also a guy needing a step up fight .

Wallins food for Joshua , if Parker does beat Wilder he gets the number 5 spot ,because beating Wilder is not something impossible either the only thing Parker has over him is activity . Parker’s to inconsistent for me to place him any higher bc Wilders not even in my top 5 .

The Ring, always the most respected (but not the most accurate when doing a look-back study, for some decades now); indeed holds that Parker is No. 5.

https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/?weightclass=272

[Willow The Wisp]

Joshua shares a very important thing with Ali . They both became champions in their 4th year , and Joshua and Ali both became champions in their 19th and 20th fight so Joshua actually became a champion sooner per fight by one fight with multiple titles as well like Ali . That is a feat in itself and against very top quality, the Klitchko win would rank over the Liston one , Klitchko was still obviously a high operating athlete while Liston was very slow and injury prone .he looked old .

What meaningful parallels!

Who is Ali's Andy Ruiz?
Hell.....Who is Deontay Wilder's Andy Ruiz?

[Mr Giggles]

Joshua's legacy is that, he is a top fighter of his era 'And is still competing to be the best of his generation, there is still a path were he can reign as the last man standing from this era'.

No fighter in this generation can be compared to Muhammad Ali, statistically in terms of their feats of achievement or overall impact.

Note: Hrgovic is a top level fight mate, if he was such a easy route then he would not be unbeaten 'Wallin, Hrgovic those are some of the fighters Joshua's critics have been calling for him to fight. Apparently Joshua has been terrified of those fighters' etc.

He can’t be the best of this generation without beating the other best, Fury, wilder, Usyk. Simple as that. I don’t care how many C level fighters he’s beaten.

And the only reason Hrgovic is unbeaten is because he had judges in his back pocket, and everyone knows it. Beside from that fight he’s also fought nobody. The one decent fighter he faced he lost to and looked embarrassing in it.

But Eddie knows this is the easier path for AJ to sugar coat his legacy rather than face a Deontay wilder who would knock him out cold. It’s a straight DUCK. It’s a smart move no doubt, as they letting a 38yo wilder get even older before they potentially face him in 2025.

[HeadShots]

If Zhang is the top 2 puncher ( he’s not at least proven to be ) that means he’ll never beat Hrgovic because he’ll never get those shots in again and clearly he lost if you know how to score a boxing bout . If Hrgovic lost to Zhang so did Tyson Fury based on the same scoring criteria to Ngannou which also didn’t happen .


Zhang never beat anyone bloody in his entire career and in fact would take another loss to Joshua easily if they ever fight , Hrgovic will also smash Bakole badly if that fight happens . There’s my list which is accurate then the rest . Zhang is only there bc he beat Joyce , Wilder isn’t because he hasn’t had a solid win in years .

he has proven to be the best puncher in the sport actually

he KOed Joyce twice. The iron chin juggernaut


nobody else has KOed someone as sturdy as Joyce

[The Big Dunn]

I’m really excited for this card.

[juggernaut666]

The Ring, always the most respected (but not the most accurate when doing a look-back study, for some decades now); indeed holds that Parker is No. 5.

https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/?weightclass=272

Joyce has a knockout win over Parker so that wouldn’t exactly make sense would it since Parker’s never fought Zhang ?

If you value ring so much you’d also have to agree Joshua is over Wilder because we’re going by the ring magazine right and Usyk over Fury two fights you continue to disagree with on here ? Lol

[juggernaut666]

he has proven to be the best puncher in the sport actually

he KOed Joyce twice. The iron chin juggernaut


nobody else has KOed someone as sturdy as Joyce

No one else Joyce fought was supposed to knock him out . Zhang is his first actual true power puncher he’s fought so far besides Dubois , the shot Zhang landed was more timing and a short shot from the side Joyce never saw coming . Zhang is basically a bigger version of Ortiz as a puncher he doesn’t have the acculmulative stoppages to say he’s the hardest puncher , had he knocked Hrgovic down as well I’d give it a thought but that wasn’t a clean knockdown . Hrgovic actually knocked him down but the ref missed it .

Joshua , Wilder , are considered the hardest punchers , Hrgovic, Mahkmudov , Bakole and Zhang can all punch all those guys have heavier hands then Wilder but hitting harder is different . It’s impossible to say who hits harder out if them they punch differently,in terms of just raw power I’d take Mahkmudov outside Joshua and Wilder on the eye test if he hits you clean he struggles in spot’s because he’s not as swift setting punches up .

[PRINCEKOOL]

He can’t be the best of this generation without beating the other best, Fury, wilder, Usyk. Simple as that. I don’t care how many C level fighters he’s beaten.

And the only reason Hrgovic is unbeaten is because he had judges in his back pocket, and everyone knows it. Beside from that fight he’s also fought nobody. The one decent fighter he faced he lost to and looked embarrassing in it.

But Eddie knows this is the easier path for AJ to sugar coat his legacy rather than face a Deontay wilder who would knock him out cold. It’s a straight DUCK. It’s a smart move no doubt, as they letting a 38yo wilder get even older before they potentially face him in 2025.

Yes, so that is why he has to fight them 'And if he is in the position to do so? Joshua will make those fights'.

It is called good making making mate, and Joshua is in my opinion being guided in this latter part of his career correctly.

Fighting Wladimir Kiltschko in his 19th fight, was not a easy path 'Re-matching Usyk after the first loss, was not a easy path back Joshua'.

Note: Hrgovic is a more in form fighter than Wilder, and he is unbeaten 'For a long time, I was stating that nobody really knows Fury's true current form. Well when Fury fought Ngannou that true form of his appeared'.

Deontay Wilder has been in the same position as Fury since their trilogy 'Wilder vs Parker needs for me to prove that his current form is still top level' etc.