Comments Thread For: Joshua-Wallin, Wilder-Parker Heavyweight Double Explored For December 23 As Part Of Riyadh Season

[juggernaut666]

You even follow boxing?
Aj & Eddie want nothing to do with Wilder, they just keep dangling that carrot for casuals.
Wallin #2 ibf sets up the vacant in house Hrgovic ibf shot after Fury or Usyk are stripped of the belt. Hopefully the looser won't take the rematch & the belts stick together.
Ajs made it quite clear he wants to be 3 times paper belt champ, Eddie's already said that. All they've ever done is least risk for most reward & that's the ibf.

You must be another idiot on here ?

You realize both parties confirmed it was the Saudis who dropped the fight right ? How is that not wanting the fight that was going to happen ? They are both still in talks that’s the fight now the Saudi wants to make next year . If it don’t happen there would need to be a reason because that’s the biggest fight out there .

No one with a brain expects Wallin to win so it don’t set up anything , just bc overatted Fury struggled again .

Wilder should beat Parker if that’s actually happened but it’s not a give me ,.

Fury vs Usyk isn’t supposed to happen until March or whatever next year , so what are you even talking about because that’s around the time we’ll see these guys fight again which sets up the fight they all want ? And it’s not Usyk vs Fury I can tell you that after Furys abysmal numbers that’s an after thought now and isn’t there number one priority ,it’s a big fight still but if you think it’s going to make more money for them instead of Joshua vs Wilder It would definitely prove your an idiot bc i get that feeling here ,

Joshua takes the least risks ,so who takes more risks the guy going into a perceived exhibition bout against a non boxer or the other one who hasn’t boxed in over a year or MAYBE the guy who fought Usyk twice and fought the most top rated boxers out of everyone and never avoided rematches unlike someone else ? Yea I think we know who the idiot is . Lol

And you ask if I follow boxing ? Lol

[BoxOfficer]

I agree. Parker is a tough guy with good skills. Not sure why Wilder would risk it without anything to gain. AJ-Wallin puts AJ on track for a vacant belt but what does Wilder gain from fighting Parker? He may be more willing if it were against Ruiz or Zhang because a win at least positions him quite well in the division.

Wilder wouldn't fight those guys you mentioned either. It is not in his nature nor that of his management to take dangerous or outside fights.

There's a reason why his last fight was a fixed one, and the long inactivity afterwards. His complete focus is on a retirement jackpot versus Joshua, which currently happens to be a mirage without the Saudis.

I want him to prove me wrong by taking the Parker fight. And there is something to gain in it. It's called money. The Saudis will make it worthwhile. Like I said, I'll be shocked to the bones if the fight happened but clearly due to a different reason from yours.

[Goatintheboat]

That isn’t what’s happening . Beating Wallin sets up Wilder vs Joshua . Joshua isn’t even near any straps because Usyk vs Fury isn’t even happening if at all until late next year as I believe it will get another postponed and be a potential waste of time ultimately just bc Fury is involved and likes wasting everyone’s time ?

Either way Joshua vs Wilder will be everyone’s goal particularly just bc Fury has massively flopped again and cost them millions of money they will want to at least make some back , these fools scratched Joshua and now need him back . Lol

No, they are playing the longer game. Joshua will fight Hrgovic for the IBF. Winning it makes a fight with Fury as big as it can be and gives team Joshua more leverage in the split, negotiations and control of the promotion. The rematch clause means fighting Fury isn't going to happen until 2025 anyway and Joshua has accepted that. They can fight Wilder anytime and will continue to suggest it as the next fight as it gets easy attention but to fight him next would be dumb in the extreme.

[Zelda]

Wilder wouldn't fight those guys you mentioned either. It is not in his nature nor that of his management to take dangerous or outside fights.

There's a reason why his last fight was a fixed one, and the long inactivity afterwards. His complete focus is on a retirement jackpot versus Joshua, which currently happens to be a mirage without the Saudis.

I want him to prove me wrong by taking the Parker fight. And there is something to gain in it. It's called money. The Saudis will make it worthwhile. Like I said, I'll be shocked to the bones if the fight happened but clearly due to a different reason from yours.

To me, beating Zhang would be easier than beating Parker for Wilder's style. Parker has better stamina, is more fluid, and is more mobile. Zhang brings size and power but is slower and more hittable for a more agile Wilder. Money will be there for both fights, perhaps even more for Zhang, but it is stylistically easier and another reward puts him in a mandatory position. Not sure if Zhang would fancy that though.

It is all speculation though at the moment. We do not even know if these fights are being planned. Doesn't sound very promising if fights are still at the planning stage just 6 weeks before the date. Don't know why things are left till the last moment because you may get some names to fight for the money but not the best fights if they are not well-prepared. Even the Fury-Ngannou undercard was announced so late.

[juggernaut666]

No, they are playing the longer game. Joshua will fight Hrgovic for the IBF. Winning it makes a fight with Fury as big as it can be and gives team Joshua more leverage in the split, negotiations and control of the promotion. The rematch clause means fighting Fury isn't going to happen until 2025 anyway and Joshua has accepted that. They can fight Wilder anytime and will continue to suggest it as the next fight as it gets easy attention but to fight him next would be dumb in the extreme.

Your completey projecting . First of all Hrgovic isn’t fighting Joshua at any time before he gets a title shot . If Joshua does not fight Wilder next year he’ll take on someone else bc defeating Hrgovic doesn’t put him any closer to a title shot bc Usyk and Fury will have rematch clauses anyway so the risk reward isn’t there to wait until belts become available , that’s for both guys actually .

Hrgovic vs Wallin makes the most sense for Hrgovic .

Wilder vs Joshua makes sense next year and makes the most sense fir both those guys .


Team Joshua would get less leverage if Fury defeats Usyk and Joshua doesn’t get a Wilder fight if Fury ever accepted the fight and didn’t give fake deadlines while sabotaging it .


They cannot fight Wilder anytime if that was the case the fight would have happened 5 years ago . Lol

[PBR Streetgang]

Why people think wallin is any good baffles me is it because he did good against fury?

Joshua demolishes wallin in 8 rounds


And deontay parker?? What a waste of time these guys are way past this kind of competition

Wallin is a big, durable southpaw with solid boxing skills. Wallin lost the Fury bout but he was landing clean early in that one (which caused the cut), Wallin comprehensively outboxed Breazeale and just beat Gassiev. He doesn't seem to have a lot of pop but I don't recall him ever being seriously buzzed in any of his fights and he's fought some guys with power.

If AJ stops him like you predict, I will be impressed and if if AJ can't hurt/stop Wallin I wonder if he can outbox the big Swede over 12.

[pollywog]

Seems like Saudis are testing the AJ v Wilder waters rather than jumping in head first.

If AJ beats Wallin and Wilder beats Parker who do you think is gonna fight next ?

AJ v Wilder.

If Wilder doesn't take the Parker fight he can kiss that sweet sweet sportswashing blood money goodbye.

I reckon part of the deal on AJ's part would be a gag order on Fast Eddie.

[Willow The Wisp]

Another great card proposed here for sure, *****g the top of the division into hard action, using The Ring's number 3, 4, 6 and 11, and ESPN’S number 3, 4, 8, 9 and 10 on the same card, in addition to Dubois, BoxRec's # 4 and another top 15 of the world's 2,572 active Heavyweights.

Wilder's never in a bad fight and looked as good as ever against Helenius, one of Western Europe's best this century, and Parker is coming off by far what was the best performance of his career against Kean.

As the old model broadcast mediums die off and new ones ramp up through ever-eveolving tech, who broadcasts this is of limied interest to me. Wherever you live, you can get this.

Gotta love it. Lets see it happen.

[pollywog]

Wilder's never in a bad fight and looked as good as ever against Helenius, one of Western Europe's best this century, and Parker is coming off by far what was the best performance of his career against Kean.

Wilder looked like a scared little boy until Helenius fell over for him.

Parkers best was probably obliviating the corpse of Chisora.

[Willow The Wisp]

To me, beating Zhang would be easier than beating Parker for Wilder's style. Parker has better stamina, is more fluid, and is more mobile. Zhang brings size and power but is slower and more hittable for a more agile Wilder. Money will be there for both fights, perhaps even more for Zhang, but it is stylistically easier and another reward puts him in a mandatory position. Not sure if Zhang would fancy that though.

It is all speculation though at the moment. We do not even know if these fights are being planned. Doesn't sound very promising if fights are still at the planning stage just 6 weeks before the date. Don't know why things are left till the last moment because you may get some names to fight for the money but not the best fights if they are not well-prepared. Even the Fury-Ngannou undercard was announced so late.

Good post Zelda. But I'm sure you're already aware that you were swapping thoughts with a non-worthy correspondent there. "Fixed fight". Woof.