Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz Wants Zhilei Zhang, Anthony Joshua Trilogy Or Wilder In 2024

[PunchyPotorff]

Scared of Charles Martin, wants $5-10 mil per fight... yet has the nerve
to say he's being ducked. Clown won't even admit he really doesn't wanna fight.
Eating is his forte.

[TMLT87]

One was a squeaker over top 10 Ortiz to decide title of best Latino fighter of all-Time. That was a worthy placeholder.

Anyway, The Ring still holds him in the same class as Usyk, Wilder, Zhang, Joshua. Like anyone who knows their stuff.

Stop it.

[Willow The Wisp]

Stop it.

Bring it.

[Willow The Wisp]

Stop it.

I'll gift you with an old post of mine. Happy to enlighten.


As a long time boxing historian, I am pretty excited about the upcoming all-Latino battle between American Andy Ruiz and Cuban Luis Ortiz. It's huge. Here's why. As a P4P or Per Capita measure, Hispanics make a strong case for being the greatest fighter ethnicity in the human race. Naturally, every national, ethnic, cultural group has their teacher, their scientist, architect, intellectual, entertainer, artist, politician, academic, cook, laborer, historian.... and warrior. Some have failed to bring unarmed combat to art form level due to laws. Others have been successful enough in other areas to render their population especially gentrified, and not feeling much need for the practice of fighting. Still others have worked to raise the unarmed combat / prizefighting level in their culture to a point of perfection where their fighters are the among the world's best. The Thais have done this. Within Asia, the fighting ability of the Thais has sped beyond those of much larger nations such as China, India, Indonesia and Vietnam and their ring warriors can most often, history shows; dust off the practitioners of the less effective and overly complicated martial arts styles of their higher population neighbors. Simply put, Thais are good at hand to hand fighting. The people who identify as Hispanic or Iberian or Latin American number 4.8% of global population. And yet, their cultures make up some 41% of all professional boxers across 181 of the planet's total 195 nations where pro boxing exists in 2022.

Hispanic fighters flood into Boxing as a viable means to uplift the life quality of themselves and their loved ones.

It goes without saying that weight divisions exist in combat sports to protect smaller fighters from the inarguable advantages held by larger ones, and that therefore; the Heavyweights are the defacto 'champions' of fighting.

With this as an information backdrop, here are the Greatest Hispanic / Iberian / Latin American Heavyweights of the past 250 years:

1. Daniel Mendoza, Spain
2. Luis Firpo, Argentina
3. Andy Ruiz Jr., United States
4. Arturo Godoy, Chile
5. Oscar Bonavena, Argentina
6. Nino Valdez, Cuba
7. Paulino Uzcudun, Spain
8. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
9. John Ruiz, United States
10. Gregorio Peralta, Argentina
11. Chris Arreola, United States
12. Jose Manuel Urtain, Spain
13. Alfredo Evangelista, Uruguay
14. Cesar Brion, Argentina
15. Jose Santa, Portugal
16. Isidoro Gastanaga, Spain
17. Alberto Santiago Lovell, Argentina
18. Jose Luis Garcia, Venezuela
19. Alfredo Zuany, Mexico
20. Omelio Agramonte, Cuba
21. Tony Fuente, Mexico
22. Yoan Pablo Hernandez, Cuba
23. Alejandro Lavorante, Argentina
24. Bernardo Mercado, Colombia
25. Osvaldo “Jaws” Ocasio, Puerto Rico
26. Odlanier Solis, Cuba
27. Abel Cestac, Argentina
28. Eduardo Corletti, Argentina
29. Alex Miteff, Argentina
30. Manuel Ramos, Mexico
31. Adilson Rodrigues, Brazil
32. Victorio Campolo, Argentina
33. Julio Mederos, Cuba
34. Jorge Luis Gonzalez, Cuba
35. Young John Herrera, Cuba
36. Fres Oquendo, United States
37. Eddie The Animal Lopez, United States
38. Alfredo Lagay, Argentina
39. Joe “King” Roman, Puerto Rico
40. Luis Faustino Pires, Brazil
41. Quintin Romero Rojas, Chile
42. Elieser Castillo, Cuba
43. Kid Rivera (James Williams), United States
44. Pedro Agosto, Puerto Rico
45. Felipe Rodriguez, Spain
46. Jose Nino Ribalta, Cuba
47. Domingo D'Elia, Argentina
48. Jose Giorgetti, Argentina
49. Agostinho Guedes, Portugal
50. Claudio Villar, Spain

[TMLT87]

I'll gift you with an old post of mine. Happy to enlighten.


As a long time boxing historian, I am pretty excited about the upcoming all-Latino battle between American Andy Ruiz and Cuban Luis Ortiz. It's huge. Here's why. As a P4P or Per Capita measure, Hispanics make a strong case for being the greatest fighter ethnicity in the human race. Naturally, every national, ethnic, cultural group has their teacher, their scientist, architect, intellectual, entertainer, artist, politician, academic, cook, laborer, historian.... and warrior. Some have failed to bring unarmed combat to art form level due to laws. Others have been successful enough in other areas to render their population especially gentrified, and not feeling much need for the practice of fighting. Still others have worked to raise the unarmed combat / prizefighting level in their culture to a point of perfection where their fighters are the among the world's best. The Thais have done this. Within Asia, the fighting ability of the Thais has sped beyond those of much larger nations such as China, India, Indonesia and Vietnam and their ring warriors can most often, history shows; dust off the practitioners of the less effective and overly complicated martial arts styles of their higher population neighbors. Simply put, Thais are good at hand to hand fighting. The people who identify as Hispanic or Iberian or Latin American number 4.8% of global population. And yet, their cultures make up some 41% of all professional boxers across 181 of the planet's total 195 nations where pro boxing exists in 2022.

Hispanic fighters flood into Boxing as a viable means to uplift the life quality of themselves and their loved ones.

It goes without saying that weight divisions exist in combat sports to protect smaller fighters from the inarguable advantages held by larger ones, and that therefore; the Heavyweights are the defacto 'champions' of fighting.

With this as an information backdrop, here are the Greatest Hispanic / Iberian / Latin American Heavyweights of the past 250 years:

1. Daniel Mendoza, Spain
2. Luis Firpo, Argentina
3. Andy Ruiz Jr., United States
4. Arturo Godoy, Chile
5. Oscar Bonavena, Argentina
6. Nino Valdez, Cuba
7. Paulino Uzcudun, Spain
8. Luis Ortiz, Cuba
9. John Ruiz, United States
10. Gregorio Peralta, Argentina
11. Chris Arreola, United States
12. Jose Manuel Urtain, Spain
13. Alfredo Evangelista, Uruguay
14. Cesar Brion, Argentina
15. Jose Santa, Portugal
16. Isidoro Gastanaga, Spain
17. Alberto Santiago Lovell, Argentina
18. Jose Luis Garcia, Venezuela
19. Alfredo Zuany, Mexico
20. Omelio Agramonte, Cuba
21. Tony Fuente, Mexico
22. Yoan Pablo Hernandez, Cuba
23. Alejandro Lavorante, Argentina
24. Bernardo Mercado, Colombia
25. Osvaldo “Jaws” Ocasio, Puerto Rico
26. Odlanier Solis, Cuba
27. Abel Cestac, Argentina
28. Eduardo Corletti, Argentina
29. Alex Miteff, Argentina
30. Manuel Ramos, Mexico
31. Adilson Rodrigues, Brazil
32. Victorio Campolo, Argentina
33. Julio Mederos, Cuba
34. Jorge Luis Gonzalez, Cuba
35. Young John Herrera, Cuba
36. Fres Oquendo, United States
37. Eddie The Animal Lopez, United States
38. Alfredo Lagay, Argentina
39. Joe “King” Roman, Puerto Rico
40. Luis Faustino Pires, Brazil
41. Quintin Romero Rojas, Chile
42. Elieser Castillo, Cuba
43. Kid Rivera (James Williams), United States
44. Pedro Agosto, Puerto Rico
45. Felipe Rodriguez, Spain
46. Jose Nino Ribalta, Cuba
47. Domingo D'Elia, Argentina
48. Jose Giorgetti, Argentina
49. Agostinho Guedes, Portugal
50. Claudio Villar, Spain

Yes thank you.

[Zelda]

This time, let him make the offers instead of demanding $20m.

[hhh1200]

Ruiz and Wilder are prime examples of why Haymon is trying to find the 100th network partner. There is absolutely no reason why this in-house fight shouldn't be made already.

[KillaMane26]

Ruiz needs to take a fight already. Been doing too much talking and with his past weight issues inactivity might do him in

[paulf]

All he's getting in 2024 is chicken wings and beer. Get real.

[theface07]

Andy Ruiz is a bad match-up for Zhang.


Zhang should've taken the easy Chisora payday. but now it's gone. Ngannou's people are actually smart. Chisora is well known and an easy pay day.

Ruiz is a bad match-up for Zhang? In what way? The only thing I can think of is it being kind of a waste of time and a step backwards for Zhang who fought and should've beat Hrgovic and beat Joyce twice who were much more relevant than Ruiz at the time he fought them. Ruiz calling Joyce a robot is like the Michelin Man calling the Pillsbury Doughboy fat.