Originally posted by IronDanHamza
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
What fake news? Isn’t that what Usyk said was the reason he wasn’t keen on the Dec 23rd or did he not say that? Because in the other thread that’s what’s being spouted so did he say that or not?
Biased haterWhat are you, 12? I like Usyk, so much so that I paid £900 to sit ringside to cheer him on in 2018.
As for Fury, not only not my hero but I’m not even a fan of Fury.
He’s playing games here in this article, they’re acting like they’re insisting on that date when they know Fury can’t do that date now and they themself said they weren’t keen on the date. Sorry if that offends you for some weird reason.
Now, in an article about how they're moving the date and being flexible you are making things up about "they’re acting like they’re insisting on that date when they know Fury can’t do that date now". Here's what they actually said in this article:
“We would rather stay flexible, relaxed,” noted Krassyuk. “We have settled already, the new date [targeted for late February]."
You have blamed Usyk EVERY time. How is settling for a new date and being flexible "playing games"?
Did you even read the article before you jumped in to blame Usyk? Did he force Fury to fight Ngannou and fail to take it seriously and fight like a chump?Dolor
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Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post
So which is it? They could force him to fight or they have to wait till he's ready?
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Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
You blame Usyk every time and try to make it like his team is insisting on a date when the very article says different. You tried to claim you weren't doing that, and I called you on it then, because you blamed Usyk when FURY was playing these games. Then you blamed Usyk again when Usyk asked for proof of injury as contractually required.
Now, in an article about how they're moving the date and being flexible you are making things up about "they’re acting like they’re insisting on that date when they know Fury can’t do that date now". Here's what they actually said in this article:
“We would rather stay flexible, relaxed,” noted Krassyuk. “We have settled already, the new date [targeted for late February]."
You have blamed Usyk EVERY time. How is settling for a new date and being flexible "playing games"?
Did you even read the article before you jumped in to blame Usyk? Did he force Fury to fight Ngannou and fail to take it seriously and fight like a chump?
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Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post
In this article they say they are being flexible and moving the date. Sounds like they're trying to make the fight happen.
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Originally posted by vitruvian View PostI am a huge Fury fan but I have to say I'm starting to believe Usyk is right about Fury just not wanting this fight. It has nothing to do with fearing the man in a boxing match it's about losing to the man according to the rules of boxing. Usyk is a good little fighter and Fury has had some trouble with smaller fighters. Take a look at the Steve Cunningham fight or the Otto Wallin fight. He just doesn't look good against small guys. He does far better against big strong guys with no foot movement. He'll embarrass AJ and we know what he did against Wilder but Usyk might just have the style to end Fury on wide points. Don't be shocked to see that happen and I'm starting to suspect Further himself already knows this.
As for the Usyk matchup, I don't think Fury fears Usyk as much as he fears having to dig extremely deep both in training camp as well as the fight. Anything less than being 100% prepared just isn't going to cut it. I also think the occasion is getting to him. There's just so much at stake for such a historic fight. It might be too much to handle.
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Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post
You blame Usyk every time and try to make it like his team is insisting on a date when the very article says different. You tried to claim you weren't doing that, and I called you on it then, because you blamed Usyk when FURY was playing these games. Then you blamed Usyk again when Usyk asked for proof of injury as contractually required.
Now, in an article about how they're moving the date and being flexible you are making things up about "they’re acting like they’re insisting on that date when they know Fury can’t do that date now". Here's what they actually said in this article:
“We would rather stay flexible, relaxed,” noted Krassyuk. “We have settled already, the new date [targeted for late February]."
You have blamed Usyk EVERY time. How is settling for a new date and being flexible "playing games"?
Did you even read the article before you jumped in to blame Usyk? Did he force Fury to fight Ngannou and fail to take it seriously and fight like a chump?
I’ve blamed Fury for many things; Failing a drug test, no intention of rematching Vlad, his bogus deadlines with AJ etc. I’ve called him out for all of those things and like I said I’m not even a fan of Fury. So your hero narrative won’t wash ok afraid, you’ll have to try a different angle.
Then that point you’ve referred to there, that was before I knew he had lingering injuries. To which you’re now saying is “fake news” so which one is it? Did he say he can’t do 23rd due to injuries or did he not? Because if he did then that’s just further games.
If he’s being flexible then great, but the fact they’re saying “you can’t force a guy to fight” when they know full well that he can’t fight on that date is just nonsense and media games.
You know it but you refuse to acknowledge it unlike when Fury does it I do. That’s the difference and the true bias, I call out both sides, you only ever call out one side.
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Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post
In this article they say they are being flexible and moving the date. Sounds like they're trying to make the fight happen.
Just no need for the dig, is there? It’s only a negative outcome when doing that.
Fury’s nonsense is no different and in fact worse.
But both sides have done their share of it and it doesn’t help.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
I don’t know how I can explain it to you in a clearer way that I blamed Fury for the fight breaking down in the last set of negotiations. I genuinely don’t know how, how can I say it so that it computes with you?
I’ve blamed Fury for many things; Failing a drug test, no intention of rematching Vlad, his bogus deadlines with AJ etc. I’ve called him out for all of those things and like I said I’m not even a fan of Fury. So your hero narrative won’t wash ok afraid, you’ll have to try a different angle.
Then that point you’ve referred to there, that was before I knew he had lingering injuries. To which you’re now saying is “fake news” so which one is it? Did he say he can’t do 23rd due to injuries or did he not? Because if he did then that’s just further games.
If he’s being flexible then great, but the fact they’re saying “you can’t force a guy to fight” when they know full well that he can’t fight on that date is just nonsense and media games.
You know it but you refuse to acknowledge it unlike when Fury does it I do. That’s the difference and the true bias, I call out both sides, you only ever call out one side.
Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostUsyk said something similar last time serious discussions were around.
I don’t trust he wants this fight all the way.
Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
That’s just ridiculous.
If the fight falls through because Usyk won’t budge on the date then that’s obviously nobody but Usyk to blame.
Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostSo if Usyk says he can’t fight in December like he did last year then who’s fault is it?
Surely not Fury’s?
When Usyk said he was injured, you said you didn't trust he wanted the fight and implied the failure of the first fight was on Usyk.
When Usyk's team said Fury needed to furnish proof of injury, you said it would be Usyk's fault if the fight didn't happen.
Now you're pretending you didn't know about the injury point when you commented in the thread to try to blame Usyk.
Keep lying. This is all your own words.
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