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  • Gideon lock
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    #21
    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
    I reviewed some Bivol to see where he’s lacking

    head movement
    Doesn't bivols highly effective active high guard negate the need for head movement in a sense? His footwork is part of his defense too, he's hard to hit clean doesn't plant his feet often using that pendulum stepping stance.

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      #22
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      He’s a just very fundamentally solid boxer IMO. That’s not a detraction either. He’s a great fighter, one of the best in the world. You could probably say the same about somebody like B-Hop who also had superb fundamentals.

      Usyk is far more creative for me, the way he utilises angles and footwork is something I haven’t seen in a Heavyweight for many years.
      Bivol the most exciting feather fisted style I seen

      what he lacks in power he makes up for in volume and big movements

      Bivol’s one dimension is one helluva dimension

      imagine if ggg took a risk, Bivol VS ggg @ 168

      ggg has the jab and pressure to make for a good fight

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        #23
        Originally posted by Gideon lock

        Doesn't bivols highly effective active high guard negate the need for head movement in a sense? His footwork is part of his defense too, he's hard to hit clean doesn't plant his feet often using that pendulum stepping stance.
        Most of the time but not always

        pascal got his shots in due to no head movement from Bivol

        and Bivol hasn’t shown a clinch game

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          #24
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

          Most of the time but not always

          pascal got his shots in due to no head movement from Bivol

          and Bivol hasn’t shown a clinch game
          That's a good point I noticed bivol fights most comfortably at mid range.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Gideon lock

            Doesn't bivols highly effective active high guard negate the need for head movement in a sense? His footwork is part of his defense too, he's hard to hit clean doesn't plant his feet often using that pendulum stepping stance.
            Head movement would potentially create issues with his movement. He's always in balance. But there's still times and places that it would help him, especially when he's pressuring. He could also negate the need for it more by seeking positional advantage. If the opponent can't punch you because you got to their T, there's not much need for head movement. He doesn't use shifts very often, for instance.

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              #26
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

              Bivol the most exciting feather fisted style I seen

              what he lacks in power he makes up for in volume and big movements

              Bivol’s one dimension is one helluva dimension

              imagine if ggg took a risk, Bivol VS ggg @ 168

              ggg has the jab and pressure to make for a good fight
              I think he has decent weight on his shots tbf, definitely hits hard enough to make you respect him.

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                #27
                Bivol by far.

                You must actually have skills to beat Canelo so good that they can`t even rob you.

                Usyk is skilled, but not that skilled. You must not be elite skilled to beat Joshua, Breidis, Chisora.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                  I think he has decent weight on his shots tbf, definitely hits hard enough to make you respect him.
                  Feather fists are apart of his style

                  he trains to be light on feet and doesn’t sit down on his shots

                  Austin trout did the same, but Bivol has better natural power and punching technique

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
                    Bivol by far.

                    You must actually have skills to beat Canelo so good that they can`t even rob you.

                    Usyk is skilled, but not that skilled. You must not be elite skilled to beat Joshua, Breidis, Chisora.
                    Yes, however to Usyk’s credit he was the smaller man in these fights, coming from cruiser to face the heavies.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

                      Feather fists are apart of his style

                      he trains to be light on feet and doesn’t sit down on his shots

                      Austin trout did the same, but Bivol has better natural power and punching technique
                      Bivol definitely has some pop IMO. The Barrera stoppage was pretty brutal.

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