More Skilled Usyk VS Bivol

[GrandpaBernard]

Yes, however to Usyk’s credit he was the smaller man in these fights, coming from cruiser to face the heavies.

There has been a shift in Ukrainian boxing

K2 Bros were textbook

Usyk and Loma have more special effects than most black boxers

[crimsonfalcon07]

Bivol by far.

You must actually have skills to beat Canelo so good that they can`t even rob you.

Usyk is skilled, but not that skilled. You must not be elite skilled to beat Joshua, Breidis, Chisora.

Usyk was the smaller guy AND he did all the fights on the road in enemy territory. Easy to create a narrative putting him down, but no other boxer is as accomplished a road warrior, and he's accomplished what he has at heavy in a division in which people can outweigh him by 45 lbs or more. That's more than 10 divisions of weight difference starting from the bottom, and still at least 5 starting from cruiser. So he had to win on points against much bigger opponents in their hometowns. You don't think that takes a ton of skill to pull that off every time and never get robbed?

[Apollo7]

Bivol by far.

You must actually have skills to beat Canelo so good that they can`t even rob you.

Usyk is skilled, but not that skilled. You must not be elite skilled to beat Joshua, Breidis, Chisora.

Usyk hasn't had that opportunity. I wouldn't bet against him beating a smaller, skilled fighter like Bivol beat Canelo

[HeadShots]

Usyk hasn't had that opportunity. I wouldn't bet against him beating a smaller, skilled fighter like Bivol beat Canelo

Briedis is smaller guy and if he was Canelo

usyk would’ve lost the decision.

That was a close fight.

[Apollo7]

Briedis is smaller guy and if he was Canelo

usyk would’ve lost the decision.

That was a close fight.

Meh, some people say Bivol was unimpressive in some of his fights prior to Canelo, styles make fights. I think Usyk beats a CW version of Canelo.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Usyk skill or skill is a more proven fighter.

Until Bivol beats a world level boxer, who out weighs him by 1.5 to 2 stone 'Then Bivol skill for skill, is not as proven as Usyk' etc.

[HeadShots]

Meh, some people say Bivol was unimpressive in some of his fights prior to Canelo, styles make fights. I think Usyk beats a CW version of Canelo.

bivol is unimpressive due to his shoe shining. No finish in many years

[JakeTheBoxer]

Usyk was the smaller guy AND he did all the fights on the road in enemy territory. Easy to create a narrative putting him down, but no other boxer is as accomplished a road warrior, and he's accomplished what he has at heavy in a division in which people can outweigh him by 45 lbs or more. That's more than 10 divisions of weight difference starting from the bottom, and still at least 5 starting from cruiser. So he had to win on points against much bigger opponents in their hometowns. You don't think that takes a ton of skill to pull that off every time and never get robbed?

Bivol beat Ramirez, who is also huge and Ramirez is probably more skilled than Dubois and Joshua.

[Gideon lock]

Head movement would potentially create issues with his movement. He's always in balance. But there's still times and places that it would help him, especially when he's pressuring. He could also negate the need for it more by seeking positional advantage. If the opponent can't punch you because you got to their T, there's not much need for head movement. He doesn't use shifts very often, for instance.

Excellent breakdown thanks for sharing bro

[elfag]

Usyk is giving up a weight advantage when fighting bigger heavyweights, pulling it off most of the time but he got a gift from the ref last fight.


Bivol is fighting guys his size but i think he is more skilled or more consistent.


their size difference isnt that far off, usyk used to fight at light heavy amateurs and fought beterbiev twice. I think same size head to head I would favor bivol the highly skilled more conventional guy, I think he catches the unconventional guy off balance, out of position ect, it usually works out that way when those types match up. Bivol has the speed and timing to outbox him if they were same size, both have crazy endurance.