If Calzaghe fought at MW Hop would never have been champ

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  • Sir Tom Jones
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    #11
    Originally posted by larry x
    to be honest..the younger hopkins that fought tito would have ko'd joe..he was more active,hungrey and raw...prime hopkins wasnt to be ****ed with
    Bolllocks!!

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    • Benncollinsaad
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      #12
      Originally posted by snootz86
      Prime Hopkins would beat joe? bull **** Prime Hopkins was beating on blown up WW. Your right TS Joe would have handled Hopkins who fought the perfect fight he could against joe (aka holding, being a dirty ****) and still LOST!!

      Joe would probably be some ATG for beating on the likes of HOoya and Trinidad too
      Don't waste your energy. These Americans will never forgive Joe for demystifying their "legend".

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      • lparm
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        #13
        Originally posted by pacman777
        they all say prime hop/roy beats cal... i say past prime cal > hop/roy even
        Past prime Joe did beat a close to prime Roy. RJJ barely touched him in that fight and Calzaghe as we now know was close to retirement.

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        • Kevin Jesus
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          #14
          Calzaghe won a controversial dec against a 43 year old Hopkins. Many people thought Hopkins did enough to win. that's at 43 years old.

          Nevermind at 33.

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          • lparm
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            #15
            Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
            Calzaghe won a controversial dec against a 43 year old Hopkins. Many people thought Hopkins did enough to win. that's at 43 years old.

            Nevermind at 33.
            Here comes the hater queen spouting about how Hop won a fight the world knows he lost.

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            • Sir Tom Jones
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              #16
              Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
              Calzaghe won a controversial dec against a 43 year old Hopkins. Many people thought Hopkins did enough to win. that's at 43 years old.

              Nevermind at 33.
              it is no secret that hopkins has aged well,


              calzaghe wasn't a spring chicken either.

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                #17
                Not sure that is true. The reverse is also possible. Joe would have had a very difficult time with a prime Hopkins, id give BHop the edge.
                Joe should really be thankful that RJJ didnt want to stay at 168 and clean out the whole division, or we probably wouldnt even be talking about him right now.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Easy-E
                  Not sure that is true. The reverse is also possible. Joe would have had a very difficult time with a prime Hopkins, id give BHop the edge.
                  Joe should really be thankful that RJJ didnt want to stay at 168 and clean out the whole division, or we probably wouldnt even be talking about him right now.
                  Calzaghe has very underrated speed even at smw RJJ would have found Calzaghe's speed a huge problem. At 160 if the arguably slower Roy managed to get in and out against Hop without taking damage then JC would've completely schooled him worse than he did in their 175 fight when Joe was blown up and old.

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                  • Benny Leonard
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Sir Tom Jones
                    it is no secret that hopkins has aged well,


                    calzaghe wasn't a spring chicken either.
                    Aged well for a boxer, yes, but compared to his actual prime...he was on the decline for a long time. His stamina especially which is why he started to pace himself and take off rounds...which was a big factor in the Calzaghe fight let alone in the Taylor fights.


                    For TS: IF Joe could have been a MW, he would have but he was to big for MW. While Joe wanted Hopkins to move up from MW to SMW to fight him years ago, it's funny Joe couldn't do the same with moving up to fight a PRIME Roy Jones Jr.

                    Joe and Bernard both wanted their legacies set in their divisions and wouldn't budge which is why the fights didn't happen years ago.

                    A Prime Hopkins vs. a Prime Calzaghe would have been a great matchup and more exciting than what we saw. How the hell anyone sees that version of Hopkins as anywhere near his prime is beyond me. For his win over Pavlik...that just says something about Pavlik.

                    Go back before Tito to see a Prime Hopkins.

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                    • djtmal
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by SekondzOut
                      thats right!!....that hungry raw B.Hop would've ate Joe the **** up!!!
                      hopkins is 1 step away from cannibalism in the ring...

                      lol...hopkins is 0 and 4 against fighters his size or bigger that are equally talented...joe spanks him...

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