If Calzaghe fought at MW Hop would never have been champ

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  • lparm
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    #41
    Originally posted by deanrw
    I do not see Joe being any cakewalk for a prime Bhop, or vise versa.

    When you look at the big picture, Joe had the style to give anyone fits. I personally think he would have beaten a prime Bhop, but lose to a prime Roy.

    He could have done more with his career, but that is no reason to sell him short. Just watch his fights and watch what he did in them.
    You lost me at the prime Roy part. Let me make this clear to all you haters an OLD CALZAGHE DID BEAT A PRIME ROY.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #42
      Hopkins wouldve had some competition and wouldnt have had to manufacture middleweights.

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      • BROOKLYN CESAR
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        #43
        Originally posted by pacman777
        they all say prime hop/roy beats cal... i say past prime cal > prime hop/roy even
        you would be a ****en idiot if thats what you really think!!!

        Prime Joe maybe out works Prime BHop but Prime Roy stops Prime Joe with one hand tied behind his back!!!

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        • HeIsTheTruth
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          #44
          No way Cal would have beaten Hop or Roy in their prime. Those fights were available for big money while Cal was fighting in Europe. Once the threats to Cal's crown got old he came to the US. He barely beat Hop at 40 so you really think he would have beaten him at 34. He won the fight on work rate alone. He could not out work Hop in his early to mid 30s. Lets not forget he was knocked down early in the fights w Roy and Hop. My feeling is that he would have been knocked out by a younger Roy and lost a landslide decision against a younger Hop. Cal even knows it, thats why he didnt want to fight Chad Dawson a young fighter close to his prime.

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          • lparm
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            #45
            Originally posted by BROOKLYN CESAR
            you would be a ****en idiot if thats what you really think!!!

            Prime Joe maybe out works Prime BHop but Prime Roy stops Prime Joe with one hand tied behind his back!!!
            Put down the pipe son it's completey ruined your brain. A prime Roy would have his hands full with a prime Cal and even the biggest critics of Joe would agree that Roy who has ALWAYS had problems with southpaws. Joe would've murdered Roy at any weight.

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            • Benny Leonard
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              #46
              Originally posted by Sir Tom Jones
              they would not have destroyed Calzaghe, sorry to break it to you.
              it is pretty sad that even today the americans get over-rated, not taking anything away from hopkins and especially jones jr as they were great fighters.

              the simple fact is calzaghe is a white boy from Europe and isn't the norm so people hate anything that goes against the norm.
              Agree: Fights between them in their primes would have been close no matter what...although I think Jones Jr. would have a won against Joe in their primes and may have even had a chance to put him away if not beat him by UD.
              Last edited by Benny Leonard; 10-06-2009, 06:18 PM.

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              • Benny Leonard
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                #47
                Originally posted by lparm
                You lost me at the prime Roy part. Let me make this clear to all you haters an OLD CALZAGHE DID BEAT A PRIME ROY.
                OK, finally got the joke :

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                • VipersThunder
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by lparm
                  If Joe went down to mw during the 90's no way would Hop have stayed champ. We all know that Joe handled Hop at a higher unnatural weight. If Joe fought at mw he would have been easily an ATG at that weight.
                  Ha that's laughable. Calslappy could barley squeak by a 43 year old inflated Hopkins. How's he going to beat him in his prime at middleweight?

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                  • VipersThunder
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by lparm
                    And you would be right. Joe had all the tools to give Hop problems at any weight. Joe would have ruled the mw's as easily as he did smw.
                    Ok so you call hiding behind a WBO crap strap for 10 years and never fighting anyone good or any other Champs until your last 2 fights ruling the SMW? How's the Kool aid?

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                    • 713832281
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                      #50
                      Very Old.

                      Originally posted by mangler
                      This **** is old.

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