Cotto is damaged and it will show on Nov. 14th

[fdotorres]

cotto shouldn't even be fighting super LWs.



yeah but cotto didn't have to accept.

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wasn't mosley willing to drain himself to 140 to fight pac??

[Roger Mellie]

I believe he is damaged,and it showed against Clottey. Boxers can ill afford many fights like the Margarito fight,and even if he had won that fight it would have taken an awful lot away from him. Those are the kind of fights that shorten careers.

I could be wrong,I even hope I am as Cotto is one of my favourite fighters,but I dont think I am. Chances are we will find out Nov 14th.

[WhoreUs]

i agree. pac called out cotto

whatever.

100k on pacquiao over michelle.

[dporcer0]

I believe that Cotto is damaged and I saw a lot of troubling things going back to the Jennings fight. Here's a little rundown of my observations:

- He doesn't use his defense to set up his offense as much as he did in the past. He displayed a lot of subtle skills against Mosley, Judah, and Quintana with regard to slipping punches and coming back with counterpunches. When thrown at now, he almost always covers up and has to reset completely. He’s become a more basic fighter without this dimension.

- His right hand has little snap on it and it comes off very odd (refer to the Jennings fight for reference). It’s just straight. His personal trainer, Phil Landman, said he tore his rotator cuff in preparation for Jennings because he tried to do too much, too soon. That’s the reason for it. In fact, he just doesn’t look as fast, or as coordinated as he used to.

- He throws uppercuts from range. He hasn’t stepped in to throw a compact inside uppercut since the Margarito fight. Everything is a leap-in uppercut from either mid-range or long-range, and everytime, he misses the target.

- He’s heavier on his front foot than he was previously. His knees/legs have lost some bounce and he’s more flatfooted than ever before. And he doesn’t push-off the backfoot and step with the frontfoot on each punch now to create maximum leverage and power. Refer to the Judah and Quintana fights to see how Cotto used to be able to propel himself forward, almost to the point where he was leaping. Ever since the Margarito fight, he hasn’t shown the legs to do that. Simply put, he’s more static and stationary and doesn’t look as sturdy on his legs. This is the most worrying sign for me.

- Cotto was never the kind of fighter who could stop on a dime and punch; he always needed some time to get set, and that time has increased just slightly. I doubt he’s as well equipped to deal with movement and speed as he was when he fought guys like Quintana, Judah, and Mosley. Bad news if he can’t close distance quickly against Pacquiao.

- His defensive reflexes and overall reflexes/reaction times appear to be slowing. It’s not to the point where he can be labeled a shot fighter by any means, though, but there has been a decline. This slowing of reflexes has forced him to take more blows and cleaner blows than ever. He can’t lessen the impact by slightly rolling with a punch.

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IMO, Cotto is clearly past his best. Just watch his pre-Jennings/Clottey fights, recent fights and even his past training sessions hitting the mitts compared to the ones now. Night and day how much better he looked. He appeared to be ultra-confident and that confidence just isn’t all there anymore. However, while he’s physically on the downside, a good trainer would help him extend his career more than somebody like Joe Santiago. If he takes a serious beating from Pacquiao, he ought to think about calling it a day sometime soon (which I think he will anyways, as he’s said). And this is coming from a big Cotto fan.

[Pullcounter]

wasn't mosley willing to drain himself to 140 to fight pac??

140 was way too low, but mosley was willing to fight pac on a level playing field... he was even willing to give pac the advantage. that's a real competitor.

i agree. pac called out cotto

I agree... also cotto didn't have to accept

[Ether]

if he's not......he will be.

pacquiao will end his career.

Agreed, Cotto is damaged goods. Hopefully he'll retire after being exposed and loses by stoppage or brutal KO on the 14th.

[Roger Mellie]

I believe that Cotto is damaged and I saw a lot of troubling things going back to the Jennings fight. Here's a little rundown of my observations:

- He doesn't use his defense to set up his offense as much as he did in the past. He displayed a lot of subtle skills against Mosley, Judah, and Quintana with regard to slipping punches and coming back with counterpunches. When thrown at now, he almost always covers up and has to reset completely. He’s become a more basic fighter without this dimension.

- His right hand has little snap on it and it comes off very odd (refer to the Jennings fight for reference). It’s just straight. His personal trainer, Phil Landman, said he tore his rotator cuff in preparation for Jennings because he tried to do too much, too soon. That’s the reason for it. In fact, he just doesn’t look as fast, or as coordinated as he used to.

- He throws uppercuts from range. He hasn’t stepped in to throw a compact inside uppercut since the Margarito fight. Everything is a leap-in uppercut from either mid-range or long-range, and everytime, he misses the target.

- He’s heavier on his front foot than he was previously. His knees/legs have lost some bounce and he’s more flatfooted than ever before. And he doesn’t push-off the backfoot and step with the frontfoot on each punch now to create maximum leverage and power. Refer to the Judah and Quintana fights to see how Cotto used to be able to propel himself forward, almost to the point where he was leaping. Ever since the Margarito fight, he hasn’t shown the legs to do that. Simply put, he’s more static and stationary and doesn’t look as sturdy on his legs. This is the most worrying sign for me.

- Cotto was never the kind of fighter who could stop on a dime and punch; he always needed some time to get set, and that time has increased just slightly. I doubt he’s as well equipped to deal with movement and speed as he was when he fought guys like Quintana, Judah, and Mosley. Bad news if he can’t close distance quickly against Pacquiao.

- His defensive reflexes and overall reflexes/reaction times appear to be slowing. It’s not to the point where he can be labeled a shot fighter by any means, though, but there has been a decline. This slowing of reflexes has forced him to take more blows and cleaner blows than ever. He can’t lessen the impact by slightly rolling with a punch.

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IMO, Cotto is clearly past his best. Just watch his pre-Jennings/Clottey fights, recent fights and even his past training sessions hitting the mitts compared to the ones now. Night and day how much better he looked. He appeared to be ultra-confident and that confidence just isn’t all there anymore. However, while he’s physically on the downside, a good trainer would help him extend his career more than somebody like Joe Santiago. If he takes a serious beating from Pacquiao, he ought to think about calling it a day sometime soon (which I think he will anyways, as he’s said). And this is coming from a big Cotto fan.

Bingo.this was what I noticed during the Clottey fight,that and getting square on an awful lot. The most noticeable thing when that happened was he would look a bit panicked or indecisive,possibly(though maybe not hugely) a bit gunshy.

[taino78]

I have reviewed Cotto-Clottey fight so many times and go back to review his likes vs Judah, Ricardo Torres and others fights and believe me, he is no longer the same figher he used to be.

Now he looks at times confused, concerned, slower and hittable. In his last fight against tough Clottey it was not just the enormous gash but all this variables. I saw him wining the fight really but the only reason why he won was because Clottey dedicated himself to mimic Margarito and forgot punch... bit time mistake!!! Cotto was there for the taking and Clottey was just chasing and chasing and doing nothing, I think Ivan Carderon or Malignaggi would have finished Cotto at that stage.

Now expect on Nov. 14th Manny Pacquiao to once again show how to finish your man when is there for the taking.

how can u be so sure. a lot of people wanna call cotto shot or damaged but theres no evidence. jennings was a give em fight clottey fight he was obviously bothered by that gash by how he kept wiping it and shaking the blood off clottey would pop him in the process. if he was shot and with that bad cut against clottey it would been a str8 ko for josh. imo everybody has a punchers chance i respect pac 4 what hes done but be honest hes in for a test 9/14, like most pac fans manny is judging cotto from the clottey fight and thats a big mistake

[taino78]

sorry guys i meant 11/14

[Ravishing]

140 was way too low, but mosley was willing to fight pac on a level playing field... he was even willing to give pac the advantage. that's a real competitor.



I agree... also cotto didn't have to accept

LOL how is that a level playing field if Mosley would look like god damn Jimmie Walker coming into the fight



You really think Mosley would make even 143? He's bigger than Floyd and Floyd couldnt even make 144. How is Mosley going to make anything less?