How good/dangerous is Ngannou in a boxing match?

[NEETzschean]

Hardy had 90 pounds on 2 of his opponents.

Some boxers have started late and still been successful so you could think of any UFC fighter who is crossing over as any other athletic person trying to start boxing late, every now and then there will be a natural and some have natural punching power. WIlder started boxing late and had amazing power which took him a long way while his skills were developing. Those guys are ultra rare though.

We also see a lot of MMA types who had power in MMA who have zero power in boxing, that is in fact extremely common.

Right now I would have to assume Ngannou is featherfisted with some awkwardness (such as taking different stances, squaring up more ect) that could make things annoying for top boxers but especially at heavyweight they should be able to get enough openings on him to knock him out.

"Hardy had 90 pounds on 2 of his opponents."

Indeed. Ngannou is also enormous and faster than Hardy, with more power and a far better chin.

"Right now I would have to assume Ngannou is featherfisted"

Illogical when Greg Hardy; a considerably lighter puncher in MMA, is not featherfisted with boxing gloves on. Neither are Tuivasa or Hunt for that matter. Ngannou is not a 5'8 155 pounder.

"they should be able to get enough openings on him to knock him out."

Sure but it doesn't answer the question about how dangerous he is relative to some name heavies. Takam didn't drop or stop any of his 10 best opponents, including guys like Forrest and Yoka. Pulev's best stoppages came in the 11th round via the jab back in 2012, against vulnerable fringe contenders Ustinov and Dimitrenko. Since 2016 his only stoppage win in pro boxing was Dinu, who is chinny and lacks heart. Jermaine Franklin went the 10 round distance with glass chinned journeyman Pavel Sour.

If you had to put your life on one of these guys KO'ing Joshua or Ngannou doing it, who do you pick between Takam, 39 year old Pulev, Franklin and Ngannou?

[NEETzschean]

Seeing that Jerry forrest went the distance with many experienced pros, I would favor him, but I also think its in his best interest to request a longer fight like 6 or 8 rounds.

It could be a sloppy fight, the mma guys dont fight the same as boxers remember connor vs floyd, that was sloppy, connor is not always lined up like a boxer in their positioning, he is all over the place and there is a lot of holding when they get in close. MMA fighters arent that different than youtubers, KSI vs Tommy was a sloppy mess by all acounts as well with tons of holding so it can be hard to look good in those fights.

In 4 rounds I would favor Jerry Forrest but I wouldnt put any money on it, it will probably be a sloppy fight with lots of holding, hard to score the rounds and Ngannou is the bigger name very likely could get the win without doing much.

In 8 rounds theres more time for Ngannou to tire out and Forrest to catch him.

You put in a better fighter with say Pulev who has power, I am way more confident in him he will find an opening and put Ngannou to sleep.


So recapping, I would pick Forrest but definitely not confident enough to put money on it and even less confident for a 4 rounder.

Cool. Hopefully Greg Hardy will fight Forrest in a 4 rounder and we can see how that goes. They were both competing in the TCL, with Hardy having more success (albeit one-rounders in a small ring)

[elfag]

From the brief clips shared on social media, the dude looks like an actor trying hard to get a role in a boxing movie, lol. Unless they're holding back something, there is no way one of the heavyweight kings in his prime is going to lose. These gloves are heavier than MMA gloves. Ngannou is not used to throwing bombs with them on, but Fury is. The power might be negligible because of this and it might turn out Fury has more power than Ngannou.

I dont think its a probably, I think its a 99% chance that Fury hits harder than Ngannou in a boxing match. We seen it every single time with MMA "strikers" having no power in the ring. The only chance that Ngannou would hit harder is if its a natural 1 in 10000 or whatever with crazy power. Foreman, WIlder ect started later and rose through the ranks pretty fast but that is super rare and that would just be genetics and have nothing to do with MMA.


Ngannou is about to be hit like hes never been hit before in his life by Fury.

[NEETzschean]

I dont think its a probably, I think its a 99% chance that Fury hits harder than Ngannou in a boxing match. We seen it every single time with MMA "strikers" having no power in the ring. The only chance that Ngannou would hit harder is if its a natural 1 in 10000 or whatever with crazy power. Foreman, WIlder ect started later and rose through the ranks pretty fast but that is super rare and that would just be genetics and have nothing to do with MMA.


Ngannou is about to be hit like hes never been hit before in his life by Fury.

"We seen it every single time with MMA "strikers" having no power in the ring"

Do MMA journeymen Hardy, Hunt and Tuivasa have "no power" in a boxing ring?

Would you take Franklin, Takam or old Pulev to KO AJ over Ngannou?

[elfag]

"We seen it every single time with MMA "strikers" having no power in the ring"

Do MMA journeymen Hardy, Hunt and Tuivasa have "no power" in a boxing ring?

Would you take Franklin, Takam or old Pulev to KO AJ over Ngannou?

Pulev yes. The other two IDK I havent watched much of them.

AJ has big power, Ngannou is going to find himself out of position with a wide open shot for AJ to blast him out. Pulev has a better chance, in fact he will have a punchers chance but age is not on his side.

[TMLT87]

Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if he could beat a few guys in the top 30. He isnt very skilled but he'd probably get by on raw physical attributes to a certain extent. He is a big, strong, athletic (suspect gas tank aside) guy with natural power and seemingly a decent chin that hasnt been cracked yet.

[NEETzschean]

Pulev yes. The other two IDK I havent watched much of them.

AJ has big power, Ngannou is going to find himself out of position with a wide open shot for AJ to blast him out. Pulev has a better chance, in fact he will have a punchers chance but age is not on his side.

Let's take Pulev out then.

Takam is a longstanding name boxer, gave Povetkin a good fight and challenged AJ, was stopped prematurely in 10. But he hasn't dropped or stopped any of his 10 best opponents, including Yoka and Forrest. He even failed to do anything with Fabio Maldonado over 10 rounds: an MMA journeyman, someone Ngannou would KO inside a minute as Stipe did.

Part time factory worker Franklin failed to stop Pavel Sour over 10 rounds, check out Sour's record on Boxrec. Sour is a guy that Ngannou would go through in well under 3 minutes. Hardy's dominated better. Franklin did however go 12 rounds in a 50-50 with Whyte.

Ngannou is the GOAT UFC HW KO artist.

Who has the greatest punchers chance vs Josh?

[NEETzschean]

Honestly I wouldnt be surprised if he could beat a few guys in the top 30. He isnt very skilled but he'd probably get by on raw physical attributes to a certain extent. He is a big, strong, athletic (suspect gas tank aside) guy with natural power and seemingly a decent chin that hasnt been cracked yet.

Exactly. Physicality can be more important than skill, hence Lomachenko didn't compete at heavyweight. I wouldn't like to see Loma in a boxing match with big Frank, despite the cosmic skill gap. And Ngannou does have 14-15 years striking experience; a lot more than UFC reject Hardy, who has dominated three experienced boxers inside 12 months. It's not like Ngannou is a total striking novice off the streets of Cameroon, as crude as he is.

People don't like this line of thinking for various reasons. But with a gun to my head I'm taking Ngannou to KO Joshua over name boxers Takam and Franklin, easily.

[Smash]

You can't compare relative midgets like Connor and Floyd to heavyweights, whose one-punch power is vastly greater. Do you honestly believe that Ngannou's uppercut wouldn't KO Dillian Whyte? Do you honestly believe that Ngannou would have less than 10% chance of landing it on Whyte?

im afraid u are falling for the hype of this fight & its always the same with these types of things, it will almost certainly end in a easy win for fury and may even be borderline farce but the next one could be different........ could be... lol

fury may even carry this guy rounds to make it looks semi competitive, fury can box very well, this guy cant box at all probably or if he can its very very basic stuff with & more than likely hes gassed after a few rounds and a sitting duck in there

[Smash]

People don't like this line of thinking for various reasons. But with a gun to my head I'm taking Ngannou to KO Joshua over name boxers Takam and Franklin, easily.

u are why these fights sell so well, ngannou is almost certainly hopeless in a boxing ring, he may have a punchers chance until he gasses, thats it, u are lifting him up too much and putting down experienced pros too much i would say, boxing takes YEARS to get good at, its much more than striking and hail marys, much more

u are not taking into account simple things like punching through a guard in boxing, mma mitts do not act as a guard, its much much easier to strike through mitts, once ngannou takes a few of furys shots his stamina goes south and hes basically done most likely