How good/dangerous is Ngannou in a boxing match?

**Marchegiano** · 10-20-2023, 08:18 AM

mid 2010's Pulev smokes Franny. ... Takam though, yeah maybe.

**NEETzschean** · 10-20-2023, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by Marchegiano

mid 2010's Pulev smokes Franny. ... Takam though, yeah maybe.

I agree that they would have beaten Ngannou in a boxing match based on superior skill, experience and stamina but I don't think they are more dangerous to higher level boxers than Ngannou.

Takam for instance hasn't dropped or stopped any of his 10 best opponents, including guys like Tony Yoka and Jerry Forrest. So how can he beat an A-side champions/titlists like Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder etc. etc.? Barring a freak injury, he can't. Whereas Ngannou would have a small punchers chance against pretty much anyone if he went for it, at least in the first two or three rounds.

**YGriffith** · 10-20-2023, 08:45 AM

We'll find out in the 28th

**YGriffith** · 10-20-2023, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by NEETzschean

I agree that they would have beaten Ngannou in a boxing match based on superior skill, experience and stamina but I don't think they are more dangerous to higher level boxers than Ngannou.

Takam for instance hasn't dropped or stopped any of his 10 best opponents, including guys like Tony Yoka and Jerry Forrest. So how can he beat an A-side champions/titlists like Klitschko, Joshua, Wilder etc. etc.? Barring a freak injury, he can't. Whereas Ngannou would have a small punchers chance against pretty much anyone if he went for it, at least in the first two or three rounds.

There's footage of one of his kickboxing bouts on YouTube where they fought with what looked like 8oz gloves, and he doesn't have that kind of punching power.

**NEETzschean** · 10-20-2023, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by YGriffith

There's footage of one of his kickboxing bouts on YouTube where they fought with what looked like 8oz gloves, and he doesn't have that kind of punching power.

Wasn't that very early on in his career? I don't think that was prime Ngannou in terms of punching technique and possibly not physical maturity either.

10 oz gloves certainly reduce punching power by a considerable margin relative to 4 oz but we know that lighter punching MMA heavies than Ngannou such as Greg Hardy have good power in a boxing ring despite their lack of pure boxing experience.

**NEETzschean** · 10-20-2023, 09:22 AM

Originally posted by YGriffith

We'll find out in the 28th

I don't think one fight can necessarily tell us: Ngannou may not be able to land a meaningful glove on Fury but Dillian Whyte couldn't either. Assuming he gets clowned by Fury, ideally Ngannou would stick around in boxing and fight some journeymen and fringe contenders to give us a better idea how effective/dangerous he may be. But even if he doesn't, more MMA heavies will transition on short notice in the future, like UFC reject Greg Hardy:

Greg Hardy’s professional boxing career

Began his combat sports career in October 2016 at 28, pro boxing debut in October 2022

KO/TKO’d five times across three sports, mostly in high profile UFC events (Tybura, Tuivasa, Spivac, Watson, Flores), heavily ridiculed by media and fans but still very aggressive; “him or me” mentality, fights like a man who is indifferent to getting KO’d and has jumped back into the ring just 91 days after a KO loss

6’5, 310-330 lbs

Pressure on experienced boxers not to get KO’d by a “glass chinned NFL/MMA bum”

Dominated 12-1 Rahman Jr. (UD4), 15-4 Corbin (RTD2) and 14-1 Neely (TKO in 66 seconds, only stopped by Hardy across six TCL one rounders) in his first 12 months as a boxer

As of October 20th 2023, Hardy (3-0 pro) is ranked as the 94th (out of 1416) best active heavyweight boxer in the world by Boxrec

**Smash** · 10-20-2023, 09:27 AM

absolutely bloody hopeless would be my view, these guys cant box, usually have terrible cardio for boxing so if they are somewhat dangerous for a hail mary early on, that will go when the cardio goes and they get real real sloppy, remember fury will also land shots easily on this guy and drain him of that cardio etc

some people on here think this is some epic fight between two combat giants LOL, its hilarious

punching with big boxing gloves is also totally different than striking with small mma mits lol, its totally different, the mma guy will have to worry about whats coming back at him punch wise too

**Smash** · 10-20-2023, 09:31 AM

is there any footage of this guy even sparing, i doubt he could even take out a decent sparing partner lol, thats how bad he could be would be quite likely

**NEETzschean** · 10-20-2023, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by Smash

absolutely bloody hopeless would be my view, these guys cant box, usually have terrible cardio for boxing so if they are somewhat dangerous for a hail mary early on, that will go when the cardio goes and they get real real sloppy, remember fury will also land shots easily on this guy and drain him of that cardio etc

some people on here think this is some epic fight between two combat giants LOL, its hilarious

punching with big boxing gloves is also totally different than striking with small mma mits lol, its totally different, the mma guy will have to worry about whats coming back at him punch wise too

I agree Ngannou isn't that dangerous to high level heavyweight boxers in a boxing ring. But...

Is Ngannou less dangerous to higher level boxers than Takam, who couldn't drop or stop any of his 10 best opponents, including Yoka and Forrest?

If UFC reject journeyman Greg Hardy was able to dominate three experienced boxers inside 12 months of becoming a boxer and currently be ranked as the 94th/1416 heavyweight boxer in the world, what does he have striking-wise that UFC champ Ngannou doesn't have to a much greater degree?

How good/dangerous is Ngannou in a boxing match?