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  • Originally posted by tomhawq View Post
    What I meant was "purses." He made nonsensical offers to boxers for fights that were average on tv ratings. Offers ranging from $7 mil to $15 mil to boxers that would have accepted 7x less of that. Why $7 mil and not $1 mil? Mikey Garcia, for example, got $7 mil for the Vargas fight. How can any platform sustain such extravagance?
    Are you trying to tell me all those huge offers were turned down repeatedly by Americans because they wanted, less money? What?????

    When those huge offers came for all those frauds, they, and all their deranged fans, claimed they were being low balled. But it's a different narrative that's being said now?

    Insanity, delusion, cowardice and lies are what the problems are. People come out with crazy narratives with such ease it's scary.

    Eddie wanted everyone under one roof which would have meant keeping the costs down and the fights that needed to happen, would happen. Americans didn't want that to happen though because they wanted to be protected and instead create a perception. I mean, are you even watching what is going on? Just look at the fights that are being made and what the conditions are for those fights. Look at the Mexicans and Americans and it's right in front of your face. When they lose under such conditions, the mass corruption is off the scale when they get the robbery EVERY single time. When it comes to having fights on a level playing field, they run away. They don't want to know. They only want them when they're at their worst.

    Open your eyes or be part of the problem in the sport.

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    • Their boring boxing team did not help. It always felt like I was watching Golf instead of boxing with this crew. HBO had a way better team. Boxing, nonetheless, will not be the same.

      It may even die.

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      • Big surprise. Theirs no money in boxing. Only for freak shows with youtubers. Gotta love this new generation. MMA is where their are very few Divas. Fook boxing. Boxing will fade away inside if 10 years if people dont wake up. Maybe Dana White can fix things but i doubt it. Boxers are too spoiled and lazy.

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        • Originally posted by DClefthook View Post

          They're not dead yet. Maybe on life support but not gone yet. I've been saying this for years that if boxing wants to survive it has to follow the UFC blueprint. Everything under one roof. Dazn had the right idea but sent the wrong salesperson. I pray that PBC goes to Espn. Espn probably didn't want to invest to much into boxing because TR didn't bring enough value. But if they can get PBC over there with TR and eventually entice Oscar to come over then boxing will be huge again. No more sides of the street. Can you imagine if all three promoters let their 118-140 divisions go at it? Damn son!!!
          DAZN had the right idea now? Hahahaha.

          Look, your craziness is the problem. You can't rationalise or get anywhere with this madness. Every step that was made, it was shut down because you wanted a black man running the show with his garbage and set up fights. You didn't want the best at their best. You wanted the top names when at their worst to create a perception because you can't win at the top level otherwise. Your deranged ego's wouldn't accept that. It was nationalism at the most extreme.

          Eddie wasn't the man to do it? He was the very man to do so. But as i said, you didn't want a white Brit running the show and watching all your guys get slaughtered every weekend because the fights were made. You couldn't live with that. Well, enjoy the rot you created. No more millions for chumps who are frightened and are not what they were hyped to be. No more slanderous smear campaigns to create a narrative because the truth was something you despised.

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          • I always say this. While he made millions, Floyd killed the love of boxing. He fought a lot of handpicked opponents and had no classic bouts....down the stretch of his career.

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            • End of an era.

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              • Originally posted by pnut901 View Post

                It's not that they went to HBO and Showtime , the Networks wouldn't show boxing anymore after Ray Mancini killed Duk Koo Kim in the ring. They refused to air it anymore.
                The Mancini-Kim fight was on 11/13/82. There were plenty of fights on network tv after that. The 1984 US Olympic team made their debut at MSG and on ABC with Al Michaels doing the commentating.

                Here's Holyfield being on ABC 11/15/84:


                Here's Tyson knocking out Marvis Frazier on ABC with Jim Lampley commentating. Hell it looks like Tyson killed him! 7/26/86.


                Here's Holyfield vs Qawi for the crusierwight Championship on 7/12/86.



                Those were some of those fights on network tv after the Mancini-Kim fight.













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                • I’m about to fire HBO & Showtime then, no need for service! Bye
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                  • Originally posted by DougalDylan View Post
                    Seriously who was Wilder fighting before Hearn arrived? Stiverene and thats a stretch?? Could have fought Klitschko etc Finkel was his manager. Could have fought Martin champ with the same stable? Nothing ..


                    Dude, when was Wilder supposed to fight Klit?

                    He became champ in Jan 2015 & Klit lost to Fury in Nov. 2015.

                    Y'all act like they were champs in the same division for 3 or 4 years or something.

                    Their overlap is fxcking 8 months.

                    And if he fought Martin, y'all would just clown him for knocking out another bum like Breazeale or Molina

                    Martin's nowhere near as good as Ortiz was and Wilder sparked him twice.

                    Originally posted by JLC View Post

                    Surprised no one has said this yet but it’s true. No way on Gods green earth at less than another 700k people MINIMUM streamed Spence v Crawford. The piracy is getting easier to do, and the video quality is improving while freeze ups are reducing.

                    boxing has a LOT of problems, but this dip in PPV revenue is a big one. Of course boxers are also very much overpaid for the revenue they bring in. The guys at the top of the food chain anyway.

                    I love the sport. If it goes to Amazon I’ll watch. DAZN probably would be a better option though since there’s already a couple of promoters there. That should help making fights a bit easier.
                    UFC doesn't have piracy?

                    Of course it does.

                    I go on Twitter & there's tons of links to illegal streams on there, but they're thriving.

                    Boxing's problem is corrupt promoters, judges, & sanctioning bodies, simple as plain.

                    No way Jermall Charlo should've been able to hold the WBC belt hostage for 2 whole years, when they've stripped other fighters for less.

                    Too many belts, too many champions, too many robberies & ridiculous scorecards, too much ducking & trying to gouge the public for bullshxt fights .

                    If the best fought the best regularly in men's boxing like they do in women's boxing, the scorecards were fair 80% of the time, and these sanctioning bodies stopped it with the belt nonsense, you'd see boxing making money hand over fist.

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                    • Originally posted by DClefthook View Post

                      The funny thing is these clowns are so jubilant that Showtime is shutting down they think the PBC is shutting down too. You fools PBC is doing fine. They just put three 100+ million dollar cards on their resume this year so they could show Amazon that this is what they can do if they want to do business. It's going to be so funny when they change the name to PRIME BOXING CHAMPIONS and you guys are going to be renewing your yearly 250$ Dazn subs with all their PPVs. Can't wait until Ryan and Shakur move over with Al next year. You guys are going to shyte on yourselves!!
                      Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha.

                      Love the irony about fans being jubilant about the closure of a platform. Love it. Duh.

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