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  • #31
    He's a great fighter, but he shouldn't be overlooking Pavlik just yet. I think the only reason that other guys aren't really wanting to fight him is because the PPV and tickets buys.
    I mean if you were a boxer you would go where the most money is. Not taking anything away from Williams though, he's making a statement by calling everyone out.
    if you can make weight and beat a top fighter in that weight class you deserve credit
    I agree

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    • #32
      I think Paul handles Martinez. I mean, Cintron's jab and range game gave him problems in that fight. As far as Dzinaguy goes, I don't watch him, but I'm assuming Paul would whoop his ass too.

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      • #33
        More balls than a bubblegum machine. And he's going to fight them, too. PWILL will. And that's the TROOF!

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
          Let me ask you this and put it this way. It is more about who fighting who is legit and who isn't. If Paul Williams fighting MW Champ Pavilk is legit on all ends, then ask if Cotto fighting Pavlik would be legit or how about Mayweather and Mosely fight Pavlik? If those guys aren't legit comp for Pavilk and Williams is then when someone tells me Williams vs top WWs is legit something doesn't add up or seem right to me. He should just fight in his weight class against guys his own size. What if he beats Pavlik how bad does that look, the MW champion wanting to pick on WWs?
          Are talking about Pavlik going down 147? Cuz if we are. Yes is legit. If you talking about Cotto, Floyd, and Mosley going up to 160 and fight Pavlik and Williams. Then yes you are right. But, is at 147 is legit comp.

          So you telling me right now if Floyd fights Pavlik. And, its at 147. is not legit cuz Pavlik is too big?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Matt Marvelous View Post
            I think Paul would have a good chance of beating Floyd, but there's no way he maintains an ultra high workrate against him. He might only throw 600-700 punches in that fight. Floyd is too goddamn good defensively and lightning fast. I mean, how many did he throw against Quintana? I think it was less than 800. And not being to throw and land was a huge reason he lost that fight.
            See here is the thing about Quintana fight. It was not only the style that Quintana had. But, I aslo think it was the southpaw stance. Floyd dosen't posses that. And, I also think Quintana is more active than Floyd. I think Paul would win by pure volume.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Matt Marvelous View Post
              I think Paul handles Martinez. I mean, Cintron's jab and range game gave him problems in that fight. As far as Dzinaguy goes, I don't watch him, but I'm assuming Paul would whoop his ass too.
              See I don't think Paul does good against southpaws that has athleticism. I see what you are saying about Cintron jab. But, dosen't really uses the jab like Cintron has recently. Paul is more inside fighter. Again the style is not good for him. I know Winky was a southpaw. But, winky defense is more stand in front of you with the turtle shell defense. And, that is easy work for Paul. But, against a southpaw that can move. I don't know.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                Are talking about Pavlik going down 147? Cuz if we are. Yes is legit. If you talking about Cotto, Floyd, and Mosley going up to 160 and fight Pavlik and Williams. Then yes you are right. But, is at 147 is legit comp.

                So you telling me right now if Floyd fights Pavlik. And, its at 147. is not legit cuz Pavlik is too big?
                No I am talking about at any weight, Pav is too big to get to 147. The reason a fight at 160 between Williams and Pavlik is legit is because they are both MWs and Williams actually started out as a MW an over looked fact. The WWs are infact smaller men than Williams and Pavlik which makes fights between these 2 and any ww at any weight less than legit. Still if Williams wins the MW title you have no problem with him going down to 147 and fighting WWs? I would say if he wins the title he belongs there and nowhere lower in weight.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  See here is the thing about Quintana fight. It was not only the style that Quintana had. But, I aslo think it was the southpaw stance. Floyd dosen't posses that. And, I also think Quintana is more active than Floyd. I think Paul would win by pure volume.


                  I'm not sure Quintana is more active than Floyd. If he is, it isn't by much. Paul does get hit by the right hand a little too often sometimes. I think Floyd would win some rounds by sniping with the straight right. Paul would win some rounds by using his reach and working his combinations. It would be a close fight, at least from perspective.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    Ok so you going about who brings the most money. While I am talking about who is the best in the division. Yes I agree Paul does not bring fans and of course no PPV sales. But, that dosen't mean he is not or top 3. I don't understand why fans are so into the business side of the sport and not the actual fighting part of the sport?

                    After Margarito he tried, he called out Floyd, he called out Cotto, he has called out Shane. Right after the Margarito he was suppose to have a unification against Kermit Cintron. Who I think at the time held the IBF. And, then Cintron pulls out. I understand what you are saying but is not like this dude has not tried. When Margarito beat Cotto. Goosen offered Margarito 4 million. They turned it down and decided to fight Shane for 2 million+. What is Paul suppose to do.

                    The only thing I would agree with you. Is that Paul turned down Joshua Clottey. I felt that a fight he should of took. If you want to make that argument ok I would agree. But, Paul tried to get everybody else in there.
                    bro... the guy doesn't have drawing power, AND he lost to quintana. instead of defending his belt against ANYONE, he lost it, regained it, and moved up to fight old guys

                    martinez called him out

                    sergei called him out

                    fist you focus about getting fans, THEN you focus about the money. the guy's so worried about the money that he's had 2 belts and still has no fans

                    and yeah, i focus on that because every fighter that he's mentioned has 500 times more drawing power than williams. cotto made more or less the same money fighting clottey than fighting jennings. is jennings on clottey's or william's level? no. is he on their level in terms of drawing power? absolutely, they all draw nothing, so why would floyd fight williams for lets say 10 million when he can make 100 million with de la hoya and even about 40 with marquez?

                    it'll never happen if he doesn't focus on building a fanbase, and jumping in and out of weights won't help his cause. he needs to campaign somewhere and defend his belt. maybe he doesn't agree with that, but hey, that's what the rest of the top dogs are doing and they're making millions between them

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
                      No I am talking about at any weight, Pav is too big to get to 147. The reason a fight at 160 between Williams and Pavlik is legit is because they are both MWs and Williams actually started out as a MW an over looked fact. The WWs are infact smaller men than Williams and Pavlik which makes fights between these 2 and any ww at any weight less than legit. Still if Williams wins the MW title you have no problem with him going down to 147 and fighting WWs? I would say if he wins the title he belongs there and nowhere lower in weight.
                      But, why are we talking about any weight? This whole debate is about 147. Of course is not legit comp if all the WW have to go to 160 to fight Pavlik or Williams. But, if Pavlik can make 147 I don't see a problem with it. If Williams beats Pavlik and then goes to 147 to fight any WW what would be wrong with it? He can actually make the weight. Like you said Pavlik is too big to make 147. But, apparently Williams is not if he can still get that low. So I disagree with your whole opinion.

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