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  • #21
    Gotta give him props for wanting to fight the best. If he beats all of them or 3 out of 4 that would be something

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    • #22
      Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
      Shane and anybody else who claims that they are the best WW needs to fight Paul.
      damn right, give PWill these fights, and let's see for ourselves.......

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      • #23
        Some of these guys put way too much emphasis on size. Paul beat a big welterweight in Margarito and he lost once to a smaller one in Quintana. It ain't all about size. Mayweather is a tougher fight for Paul than anyone at 160or 154 right now.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
          Because it doesn't change the fact that they are in reality smaller guys than him even if they can get their bodies to read the same measurement on the scale for a few seconds.
          I disagree if he starves and weakens himself to make weight. And, still win then he should get credit. He is not unbeatable at WW. He already lossed there. Just cuz your tall and lanky don't mean you don't deserve credit. Is like saying Caballero dosen't deserve credit if he beats Juanma. Or Heans didn't deserve credit for his victories at WW. Or Vitaly does not deserve credit for beating Arreola and Wlad don't deserve credit for beating Chagaev. or won't get credit for beating Chambers. I don't IMO if you can make weight and beat a top fighter in that weight class you deserve credit.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
            He was ranked top 3 last year. Why did he move up? Cuz nobody in the WW division wanted to fight him. That is why the Ring did not have their belt on the line for the Margarito-Shane fight. Cuz they felt Margarito had unfinished business with Paul. Even tho Paul was not ranked at WW. But, I do understand what you are trying to say and your argument that u making. But, IMO Paul was forced out of the WW division cuz nobody wanted to fight him. I am not saying Paul is the best neither he needs to prove it by fighting Shane, Floyd, Cotto, and Clottey. But, how do we know who is the best if they refuse to fight each other?
            his fight with winky sold less than 3000 tickets. the little crowd that attended was cheering for winky btw

            he's a great fighter no doubt, but he never put himself in a position to fight the top of the WW division

            his best win was against margarito, not against quintana, so why didn't he focus on clearing the rest of the top 10 WW's? that would definitely get him another crack at the top guys like margo

            quintana was a start for him, but he did lose the 1st fight, so he never defended the belt he got from margarito. you can't expect to fight floyd that way. ranked fighter must have drawing power if they plan to call out opponent that bring in the millions. that's how it is, and that's how williams isn't

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            • #26
              Too many size whores on boxing scene. The kind of guys who think Pac is WAYYYYY too small for Mayweather.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Matt Marvelous View Post
                Some of these guys put way too much emphasis on size. Paul beat a big welterweight in Margarito and he lost once to a smaller one in Quintana. It ain't all about size. Mayweather is a tougher fight for Paul than anyone at 160or 154 right now.
                See now I am going to disagree with you. I think fighters like Sergio Martinez and Sergiy Dzinziruk. Would be tougher than Floyd. Just cuz of the styles. IMO a southpaw slick boxer would give Paul trouble. Floyd is a more skilled and better fighter. But, he is too defensive minded he is a safety first fighter. And, at 147 he is more of a pot shotter. And, that will not work against Paul. Who throws 100 punches. Style wise Paul is a nightmare for Floyd.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                  I disagree if he starves and weakens himself to make weight. And, still win then he should get credit. He is not unbeatable at WW. He already lossed there. Just cuz your tall and lanky don't mean you don't deserve credit. Is like saying Caballero dosen't deserve credit if he beats Juanma. Or Heans didn't deserve credit for his victories at WW. Or Vitaly does not deserve credit for beating Arreola and Wlad don't deserve credit for beating Chagaev. or won't get credit for beating Chambers. I don't IMO if you can make weight and beat a top fighter in that weight class you deserve credit.
                  Let me ask you this and put it this way. It is more about who fighting who is legit and who isn't. If Paul Williams fighting MW Champ Pavilk is legit on all ends, then ask if Cotto fighting Pavlik would be legit or how about Mayweather and Mosely fight Pavlik? If those guys aren't legit comp for Pavilk and Williams is then when someone tells me Williams vs top WWs is legit something doesn't add up or seem right to me. He should just fight in his weight class against guys his own size. What if he beats Pavlik how bad does that look, the MW champion wanting to pick on WWs?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by jrosales13 View Post
                    See now I am going to disagree with you. I think fighters like Sergio Martinez and Sergiy Dzinziruk. Would be tougher than Floyd. Just cuz of the styles. IMO a southpaw slick boxer would give Paul trouble. Floyd is a more skilled and better fighter. But, he is too defensive minded he is a safety first fighter. And, at 147 he is more of a pot shotter. And, that will not work against Paul. Who throws 100 punches. Style wise Paul is a nightmare for Floyd.

                    I think Paul would have a good chance of beating Floyd, but there's no way he maintains an ultra high workrate against him. He might only throw 600-700 punches in that fight. Floyd is too goddamn good defensively and lightning fast. I mean, how many did he throw against Quintana? I think it was less than 800. And not being to throw and land was a huge reason he lost that fight.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by fdotorres View Post
                      his fight with winky sold less than 3000 tickets. the little crowd that attended was cheering for winky btw

                      he's a great fighter no doubt, but he never put himself in a position to fight the top of the WW division

                      his best win was against margarito, not against quintana, so why didn't he focus on clearing the rest of the top 10 WW's? that would definitely get him another crack at the top guys like margo

                      quintana was a start for him, but he did lose the 1st fight, so he never defended the belt he got from margarito. you can't expect to fight floyd that way. ranked fighter must have drawing power if they plan to call out opponent that bring in the millions. that's how it is, and that's how williams isn't
                      Ok so you going about who brings the most money. While I am talking about who is the best in the division. Yes I agree Paul does not bring fans and of course no PPV sales. But, that dosen't mean he is not or top 3. I don't understand why fans are so into the business side of the sport and not the actual fighting part of the sport?

                      After Margarito he tried, he called out Floyd, he called out Cotto, he has called out Shane. Right after the Margarito he was suppose to have a unification against Kermit Cintron. Who I think at the time held the IBF. And, then Cintron pulls out. I understand what you are saying but is not like this dude has not tried. When Margarito beat Cotto. Goosen offered Margarito 4 million. They turned it down and decided to fight Shane for 2 million+. What is Paul suppose to do.

                      The only thing I would agree with you. Is that Paul turned down Joshua Clottey. I felt that a fight he should of took. If you want to make that argument ok I would agree. But, Paul tried to get everybody else in there.

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