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  • #31
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
    Fres Oquendo better get his shot! And the new!!!!
    Weren't him and Shannon Briggs supposed to be fighting for the vacant belt a few years back? Or I think that may have been the WBO, I forget.

    Boxing..

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    • #32
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      Weren't him and Shannon Briggs supposed to be fighting for the vacant belt a few years back? Or I think that may have been the WBO, I forget.

      Boxing..
      That WBA reg belt is the most laughable in boxing.

      We had that Chagaev farce in Chechnya, which in turn led to Oquendo having some legal right to fight for the belt, then we had Lucas Browne win the belt who a few months later popped for PEDs. Then Charr wins the vacant belt who also pops for PED’d and then got shot or something not long after I believe, then Trevor Bryan becomes a “World Heavyweight Champion”. Meanwhile Dubois coming off a loss and Bogdan Dinu are fighting for the interim version. Eventually Dubois beats Bryan and Usyk beats Dubois and we think we’re finally rid of this nonsense belt and Manuel Charr gets reinstated on some legal loophole.

      It’s absolutely laughable man.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

        That WBA reg belt is the most laughable in boxing.

        We had that Chagaev farce in Chechnya, which in turn led to Oquendo having some legal right to fight for the belt, then we had Lucas Browne win the belt who a few months later popped for PEDs. Then Charr wins the vacant belt who also pops for PED’d and then got shot or something not long after I believe, then Trevor Bryan becomes a “World Heavyweight Champion”. Meanwhile Dubois coming off a loss and Bogdan Dinu are fighting for the interim version. Eventually Dubois beats Bryan and Usyk beats Dubois and we think we’re finally rid of this nonsense belt and Manuel Charr gets reinstated on some legal loophole.

        It’s absolutely laughable man.
        I'm sick of it all.

        I'm old enough to remember when there was only one belt. Didn't know how good we had it.

        UFC has the right idea. Even though they are starting to make new belts aswell.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

          I'm sick of it all.

          I'm old enough to remember when there was only one belt. Didn't know how good we had it.

          UFC has the right idea. Even though they are starting to make new belts aswell.
          The 4 I can handle it’s all the regular, interim, franchise, emeritus, gold, silver etc sh** I can’t stand.

          Don’t get me wrong, ideally I’d prefer 1 per weight class but it just seems a million years away from ever happening.

          I got into boxing in the 90’s, I don’t think I’d be anywhere near as big of a fan if I grew up in this era. Seems like most of the kids gravitate towards UFC too.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            I'm old enough to remember when there was only one belt. Didn't know how good we had it.
            You were watching boxing before the WBC was formed?

            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
            The 4 I can handle
            I preferred just the three. I was very resistant to accepting the WBO and still teasingly refer to it as the WBOgus in reference to my stubbornness.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by dan-b View Post

              You were watching boxing before the WBC was formed?



              I preferred just the three. I was very resistant to accepting the WBO and still teasingly refer to it as the WBOgus in reference to my stubbornness.
              Technically no, as they used to give out trophies not belts.

              But in regards to it being a legitimate actual recognised belt, yes.
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              • #37
                Considering the others from the WBA top 10, Charr must be ashamed of holding the title. I doubt he will fight any of the top 5, but in case he does - he will lose.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by dan-b View Post

                  You were watching boxing before the WBC was formed?



                  I preferred just the three. I was very resistant to accepting the WBO and still teasingly refer to it as the WBOgus in reference to my stubbornness.
                  I grew up in the 3 belt era, the WBO was active but it was kind of like the IBO is now. Wasn’t until the 2000’s the WBO felt legitimate.
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                  • #39
                    MoonCheese MusoMeanderings - with Haney giving up his 135 titles it looks like we've lost another 'regular' belt by attrition. No official acknowledgement by the WBA yet, but I expect them to declare Gervonta Davis their sole lightweight 'monarch' as they did Wood when LSC finally relinquished his belt at 126.

                    Similar will probably happen at 147 as Crawford likely won't fight at the weight again. Super-middle will be a stubborn one as Canelo is likely to remain in the division for a while and I have doubts about whether the WBA will force a consolidation with Morrell.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                      I grew up in the 3 belt era, the WBO was active but it was kind of like the IBO is now. Wasn’t until the 2000’s the WBO felt legitimate.
                      The WBO became legitimate when it became recognized by the other three.

                      The WBA recognized the WBO in 2000
                      The WBC recognized the WBO in 2004
                      The IBF recognized the WBO in 2006

                      For most people it's somewhere in that 2004-2006 range that it became a real belt.

                      The IBO would have already been recognized by the others if it were ever going to be. It was founded in 1988, the same year as the WBO.

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