Pre-Mayweather era, which notable fights fell apart because "muh A side", "muh split"?

[dan-b]

But the fact that he promoted that 0 like it was he best thing since sliced bread

He was the first fighter to constantly talk about his PPV numbers also. It was incredibly tedious.

[Roadblock]

He was the first fighter to constantly talk about his PPV numbers also. It was incredibly tedious.

Floyd publicly is as annoying as hell, it amazes me when a celebrity sportsman as big as Floyd is so messed up in front of cameras, he is like Micheal Jackson in Wonderland and its all his.

[786]

It delayed fights, Hearns 1 and Hagler obviously.

Leonard-Pryor never happened too but not really because of politics.

The biggest stars have always leveraged the benefits that come with being the “A-side”.

Would you say it was as prominent then as it is today?

[djtmal]

Floyd publicly is as annoying as hell, it amazes me when a celebrity sportsman as big as Floyd is so messed up in front of cameras, he is like Micheal Jackson in Wonderland and its all his.

Ha you Floyd boys are more like his his pet chimp bubbles

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Would you say it was as prominent then as it is today?

Yeah mainly because fighters have a lot more power.

[Marchegiano]

Poor SRL, getting the blame for a practice older than Queensberry rules.

Y'all shut the **** up and sit the **** down. Ima teach some bull. This'll be quick though; crash course.


If you follow the stars in history you'll see the split debates. Held in the press and all. Exactly like today.

I've related Mayweather to Mendoza before ... Mendoza ... the guy who invented selling tickets to seats at a fight ... argued about money. Suprise.

Daniel The *** Mendoza would be your first to make a stink about money, use the press to raise more money, and was boxing's first ever heel, first **** talker.

1780s

The next really big star in boxing did what? Yes he did. Jem Belcher sat on ass until the money was right.

Tom Cribb was famous for not fighting unless the money and draw was there. Among other thing but point is it's a well known part of that dude's story.

Jem Ward held the title hostage, ducked, in public, did not hide it or dance around it even a little bit. Burke was too deaf, too ******, too broke, and not english enough to challenge Ward. ... It took Burke years of work in America to raise the money to fight Ward.

I'm not going into extreme detail with BK, or anything for that matter, I just needed a few examples to make my point.


But all that died with Queensberry doe? Nah son, got a new coat of paint but it would not last long.

Generally speaking you can look up stars and find split arguments at any period, except, the colorline. Or rather, the first bit of the colorline.

To my knowledge Sully and Corbett could just refuse to fight black men, but shortly after it became black men do not put asses in seats.

Dempsey is the king of ducking a black guy while claiming the reason for the ducking is money. Split negotiations and purse amounts all over his career.

Then you have the **** era when the world governments meddled in boxing.

Then, ****ing DK man ... nothing but money and split talks. This fool told these cats whatever figure he needed them to hear to sign then just shrugged his shoulders when the money wasn't there ... gangster.

Finally we get to Money. SRL ain't even a big player in this. He's just a guy during the King era trying to keep up with King money and King practices. IMO.

[The Big Dunn]

The only fault Floyd has in this, is that somehow this new generation forgot that Floyd paid his dues and earned the top spot. He wasn't born the A-side or "cash cow". He worked his way there and eventually guys were scratching and clawing to fight him like they do Canelo now.

Which Mayweather fights fell apart due to money? If you want to count his financial spat with Bob over the Margarito/Cotto/De la Hoya plan that's fine, but Floyd was right and I think history more than proves this.

Everyone wants to be Floyd in this respect, but very few of them want to earn it the way he did.

This right here.

[dan-b]

Bumping this because people across threads seem to be recognising how much this has contributed to the inactivity we are seeing today. There are other factors of course, such as limited network dates, promotional rivalries, etc.

[Roadblock]

Okay, but did it prevent any notable fights from happening?

The A sides didn't want to fight Mike McCallum including Leonard.

[BodyBagz]

Sometimes a 3 element can thwart fights....networks.