Pre-Mayweather era, which notable fights fell apart because "muh A side", "muh split"?

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  • Silence
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    #11
    Most of SRL and ODLH's fights.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
      There's literally a demographic that believes Floyd invented negotiating. Contrary to the narrative Floyd haters are trying to push, politics has always been a part of fight making. Quit living in your fantasy world that never existed.
      Answer the question and list the fights then.

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        #13
        Dempsey-Wills

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          #14
          Originally posted by Floyd is TBE
          There's literally a demographic that believes Floyd invented negotiating. Contrary to the narrative Floyd haters are trying to push, politics has always been a part of fight making. Quit living in your fantasy world that never existed.
          Brother I respect the fact you are a Mayweather fan but you’d be lying to yourself if you really believe yourself that Floyd had fugh all to do with this
          Tell you what , imo , more blame can and should be laid on Al Haymon cause he was the brains behind it
          We all know it wasn’t Floyd’s gig , he just followed the plans to a tee , I must say
          It wasn’t the negotiating part that he remastered but the way to negotiate came into play big time

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            #15
            Originally posted by TelMex
            Maybe riddck bowe and Lennox Lewis
            Prime bowe kicks lewis ass ....alot of boxing is mental and guys lose before the dot is signed smdh

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              #16
              The A side stuff began with SRL.

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                #17
                Originally posted by MulaKO

                Brother I respect the fact you are a Mayweather fan but you’d be lying to yourself if you really believe yourself that Floyd had fugh all to do with this
                Tell you what , imo , more blame can and should be laid on Al Haymon cause he was the brains behind it
                We all know it wasn’t Floyd’s gig , he just followed the plans to a tee , I must say
                It wasn’t the negotiating part that he remastered but the way to negotiate came into play big time
                The only fault Floyd has in this, is that somehow this new generation forgot that Floyd paid his dues and earned the top spot. He wasn't born the A-side or "cash cow". He worked his way there and eventually guys were scratching and clawing to fight him like they do Canelo now.

                Which Mayweather fights fell apart due to money? If you want to count his financial spat with Bob over the Margarito/Cotto/De la Hoya plan that's fine, but Floyd was right and I think history more than proves this.

                Everyone wants to be Floyd in this respect, but very few of them want to earn it the way he did.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Gary Coleman

                  The only fault Floyd has in this, is that somehow this new generation forgot that Floyd paid his dues and earned the top spot. He wasn't born the A-side or "cash cow". He worked his way there and eventually guys were scratching and clawing to fight him like they do Canelo now.

                  Which Mayweather fights fell apart due to money? If you want to count his financial spat with Bob over the Margarito/Cotto/De la Hoya plan that's fine, but Floyd was right and I think history more than proves this.

                  Everyone wants to be Floyd in this respect, but very few of them want to earn it the way he did.
                  I’ll give you that , yes he did earn and also forgot how he got there
                  No fighter can do what Floyd did and im not talking about his skills either
                  He got lucky , timing 2as right and the plan worked in his favour
                  But the fact that he promoted that 0 like it was he best thing since sliced bread , yeah fughin right I put some blame on him
                  The true and real culprit is Al Haymon

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by MulaKO

                    Brother I respect the fact you are a Mayweather fan but you’d be lying to yourself if you really believe yourself that Floyd had fugh all to do with this
                    Tell you what , imo , more blame can and should be laid on Al Haymon cause he was the brains behind it
                    We all know it wasn’t Floyd’s gig , he just followed the plans to a tee , I must say
                    It wasn’t the negotiating part that he remastered but the way to negotiate came into play big time
                    Agree but you can only do it from a very high place, you have to earn the negotiating power Floyd had, he played the game like a master and people don't equate that to being a great fighter, they kind of lose that within the road to being the highest paid sportsmen in history and a boxer, love him or hate him the guy came out on top in a very unforgiving sport.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Roadblock

                      Agree but you can only do it from a very high place, you have to earn the negotiating power Floyd had, he played the game like a master and people don't equate that to being a great fighter, they kind of lose that within the road to being the highest paid sportsmen in history and a boxer, love him or hate him the guy came out on top in a very unforgiving sport.
                      Definitely, totally agree but he forgot how he got there
                      Floyd knew that some of the boxers that he’s giving advice to would never be on the stage he is all around
                      That also is all part of the equation because or else it won’t fly with just him
                      Anyway he portrayed to be the smart guy but behind the scenes you know this was all collaborated by Al Haymon
                      He’s the mastermind behind this movement
                      When he was gonna get involved more in the soport , I called it right away and said he would be a cancer for the sport

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