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  • Marchegiano
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    #41
    When the rating are filled with cans and an american beats those cans y'all cry about corrupt ratings and refuse to acknowledge the top tens defeated. If it's literally anyone else you ****s pretend like Joe Joyce standing around looking ****** is impressive. DDD's ability to get his ass handed to him is impressive. Hrgovic's monster of Frankenstein bit is impressive. Now the ancient chinese whisper's ability to chin an untested chin is super impressive.


    "But dey fought one another doe" comes some five years after "Ortiz is old and hasn't beaten any legit top tens."



    Wilder's still an elite because the corruption in boxing is based on money not nationality. You can say dumb**** like our daggum here claiming he only KO'd one top ten, but that's not the truth and the dude made considerable money KO'ing top ten HWs ... hence the refusal from anyone who matters to let him go. It's not the money men being damn near ******ed, it is you.

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    • daggum
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      #42
      Originally posted by Marchegiano
      When the rating are filled with cans and an american beats those cans y'all cry about corrupt ratings and refuse to acknowledge the top tens defeated. If it's literally anyone else you ****s pretend like Joe Joyce standing around looking ****** is impressive. DDD's ability to get his ass handed to him is impressive. Hrgovic's monster of Frankenstein bit is impressive. Now the ancient chinese whisper's ability to chin an untested chin is super impressive.


      "But dey fought one another doe" comes some five years after "Ortiz is old and hasn't beaten any legit top tens."



      Wilder's still an elite because the corruption in boxing is based on money not nationality. You can say dumb**** like our daggum here claiming he only KO'd one top ten, but that's not the truth and the dude made considerable money KO'ing top ten HWs ... hence the refusal from anyone who matters to let him go. It's not the money men being damn near ******ed, it is you.
      oh yeah name the top 10 fighters he ko'd so we can laugh in your face as you pretend bums are top 10 worthy. ill post the ring rankings right after as well to expose your lies. you talk about corruption then fail to see the corruption as the wbc ranks a bunch of unworthy bums in their top 15 so wilder has easy fights when no one else in the world thinks these guys are good but the wbc. thats a bit strange isnt it?
      Last edited by daggum; 09-27-2023, 09:53 AM.

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      • QueensburyRules
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        #43
        - - Deyonce #1 low hanging, spoiling fruit of his era, the whole reason Blubber picked him so he could be new #1 low hang spoiling fruit of this era.

        I believe they might even be married to each other now...ugh...only in boxing!!!

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        • daggum
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          #44
          Originally posted by billeau2

          ****** as s-h-i-t is you! Your idiocy used to revolve around diminishing Ortiz to make Wilder look worse... You now sing a different tune! Same ****** argument, different day.

          Lol Joshua scaring Wilder! Most boxing people who have any concern for AJ hope he does not fight Wilder lol. AJ has shown the mental fragility that would guarantee a fight like Tyson versus Golata! with AJ taking the place of the foul pole twitching on the canvas... same argument back then... "Golata is a solid boxer, will beat Tyson" just like AJ will outbox Wilder... lol.
          im singing a different tune? ortiz is still overrated is he not? looks like i was proven right there because his resume is terrible and hes lost to the best fighters he fought. not sure what you are even talking about because you arent making much sense.

          wilder ducked joshua and 100 million dollars to fight guys he thought he could beat for much less. im sorry that hurts you but thats the truth. "most people in boxing" yeah you know what most people in boxing are thinking somehow...right. also it wouldnt even matter what "most people" think, it matters what wilder thinks and he didnt think he could beat joshua thats why he ducked him
          Last edited by daggum; 09-27-2023, 10:00 AM.

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          • daggum
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            #45
            Originally posted by billeau2

            The need to hate on Wilder has no bounds ... When he could get fights it was inititally based on people diminishing Ortiz. Now it is based on the chronic lack of activity in the division.
            wilder fought nothing but bums for years and years so not sure what you are talking about "when he could get fights" he could always get fights he just didnt want to. he could get fights right now but he doesnt want to. its been almost 9 years since he won a belt and he's beaten 2 top 10 fighters. that doesnt sound overrated to you? dont act like he couldnt get fights, he was headlining cards on pbc with a lot of money to get opponents. they brought in bums on purpose cause they wanted to manufacture a "star" thats why his ko percentage goes from 100 percent when he fights unranked guys to 33 percent when he fights top 10 opponents.

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              #46
              Originally posted by daggum

              wilder is the classic bully. he fought some mentally challenged 147 pound kid for free but he wont fight joshua for 100 million dollars. if joshua had insulted him he would have said thank you sir i agree, when some little kid does it he wants to bash him up.
              True, he ducked Josh payday, and now lost to fury, yet Wilder s fans still say he ko s Josh fast?
              I'm sure wilder is still good, but there's a pecking order, and wilder clearly is below, josh, zhang. So wilder s fans can still say wilder is elite if they so wish, just less elite than usyk, fury, Zhang and Josh is

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              • daggum
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                #47
                i guess according to wilder fans every opponent is equal? thats what they are essentially saying because any time you point out the fact that hes only beaten 2 top 10 ring ranked fighters they go berserk calling you a liar or hater. im so sorry i pointed out something factual to you! shoudlnt you be mad at wilder for wasting 9 years figthing bums instead of me for pointing out hes fighting bums. i mean if ggg who beat 12 top 10 fighters was a bum basher, a guy who only beat 2 top 10 fighters must be even worse right? i mean logically speaking

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                  #48
                  i wll just post this for the wilder heads...

                  ko ratio against opponents who were in the top 10(ring) at the time of the fight


                  ali-50% 18 out of 36
                  ​lewis-53% 8 out of 15
                  fury-60% 3 out of 5
                  vitali klit-75% 6 out of 8
                  wlad klit-53% 7 out of 13
                  joshua-44% 4 out of 9
                  wilder-33% 2 out of 6

                  biggest puncher in boxing history!!! here's your dunce cap​
                  Last edited by daggum; 09-27-2023, 10:16 AM.

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                  • QballLobo
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                    #49
                    He’s has elite one shot KO power. He’s never been an elite boxer because he never had to be.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      oh yeah name the top 10 fighters he ko'd so we can laugh in your face as you pretend bums are top 10 worthy. ill post the ring rankings right after as well to expose your lies. you talk about corruption then fail to see the corruption as the wbc ranks a bunch of unworthy bums in their top 15 so wilder has easy fights when no one else in the world thinks these guys are good but the wbc. thats a bit strange isnt it?
                      I fail to see how this an argument that detracts from the post you quoted. Where is your counter point?

                      To clarify:
                      Marchegiano, great wizard and chronicler of the boxing, knower, cited, often called on to illuminate for the uncultured, says dumb****s like daggum refuse to acknowledge the rated fighter Wilder knocked out. Dumb as **** Daggum, knower of only her own opinion, called on to settle **** all nothing ever, respected by those who share her opinion exclusively, responds with but dey ain't legit top ten doe. I'll post Ring at you.


                      Read them quotes and tell me that **** ain't what just happened.



                      Daggy, I know you're slow so I will say this in a way you can not misunderstand; ya been spanked already and if I never respond again you simply ain't got it in you to drum up anything that changes our juxtaposition. I can just barely see you son.

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