Has Conor Benn had a hearing or not?

[M312]

What's going on?

Drug testing in the UK is only to protect A-side fighters from having to fight challengers who are doping. And that's really the case everywhere. If the A-Side pops dirty, there's always an excuse provided or a lengthy "investigation" that comes back inconclusive 3 years later and the fighter is give a 30 day backdated ban.

Boxing doesn't have drug testing. That's what's going on.

Complete nonsense.

The problem is that the A side tends to have enough money to fight it.

BBBoC are trying to fight it, like they did Tyson Fury popping hot. They just can't afford to.

I mean, it's not good, but it's not there to 'protect A-side fighters'.

[M312]

But that means that there WAS a hearing with UKAD though, right?

Had a hearing with the WBC and NAPD for sure.

Not sure how involved UKAD were with either - well we know not at all with the WBC one.

I would guess they are appealing because they were left out of the NAPD one too.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Honestly no idea at this point.

[paulf]

The problem is that the A side tends to have enough money to fight it.

BBBoC are trying to fight it, like they did Tyson Fury popping hot. They just can't afford to.

Yeah so thanks for agreeing with me.

[M312]

Yeah so thanks for agreeing with me.

I don't think anyone has ever agreed with any of the nonsense you post

[Smash]

F2IQ0kRXsAENHo3?format=jpg&name=small.jpg eggies own statement says he had a hearing with ukad

[Clegg]

That article states;

“On Monday, the BBBofC issued an official statement - where the organization revealed the possibility of appealing UKAD's decision on Benn.“

So it seems there was a hearing, which to me it seems like Benn won that hearing? And now in response the BBBoC have appealed it.

Right or wrong if Benn won the hearing then he can fight right? He’s essentially cleared to fight if he won the hearing.

I just don’t understand why you’ve got Warren, Froch etc saying he hasn’t had hearing and presented his case to UKAD when unless I’m mistaken that’s exactly what he’s done and won? I don’t know, losing me on this.

It would be nice if this stuff wasn’t confidential (the actual hearing itself) there is no reason for it to be.

In August UKAD said

“UK Anti-Doping (UKAD) can today confirm that it has filed an appeal in respect of a decision handed down by the independent National Anti-Doping Panel regarding anti-doping proceedings brought by UKAD against Mr Conor Benn."

So my understanding of that is that Benn went to NADP to claim on a technicality that UKAD couldn't punish him because the testing wasn't done by them, it was done by VADA. UKAD are currently appealing this.

So Benn hasn't presented his case to UKAD, he's just gone around them so he can avoid having to even present a case at all. Although UKAD were at the hearing, it wasn't their decision to clear him, they wanted to punish him but were overruled because of a jurisdiction loophole.

[IronDanHamza]

Had a hearing with the WBC and NAPD for sure.

Not sure how involved UKAD were with either - well we know not at all with the WBC one.

I would guess they are appealing because they were left out of the NAPD one too.

Really? That’s just ridiculous.

Surely UKAD can just come out and say whether the hearing was with them or not, because it’s being reported like it was, and Benn/Hearn saying the same (doesn’t mean it’s true mind you)

Surely for the suspension to be lifted it must mean that UKAD were involved? Or no? I genuinely don’t know.

These are things the public should know.

[Boxing 112]

Timeline from what i have followed

Test 1 - failed July 25 2022

Test 2 - failed Sept 1 2022 - reported to teams Sept 25

Fight pulled Oct 2022

Benn does not co-operate with UKAD or BBbofc

Feb 2023 - WBC cleared him
The WBC stated on that Benn's "highly-elevated consumption of eggs" was a "reasonable explanation" for his failed drugs test.

Feb 2023 - Benn welcomed the decision but said he does not agree with everything in their statement. Claiming his 270 book he sent them made no mention of eggs

Feb 2023 - Benn claims in an interview the 270 page book he sent gave substantial evidence about flaws and irregularities.

To me it sounds like he was blaming the testing process? And said he doesn't believe anything was in his system

At this point he has still not co-operated with Bbbofc and not give them the 270 page book of "evidence"

April 2023 - UKAD suspends Benn

"UKAD can also confirm that on 3 April 2023 it charged Mr Benn with an Article 2.2 violation for the alleged Use of a Prohibited Substance (clomifene). The charge against Mr Benn is pending and will now follow the Results Management process in accordance with the UK Anti-Doping Rules"

I'm not 100% what happened in the next nadp process. But seems they went to the NADP (National Anti-Doping Panel), who cleared him. This is where people are claiming nadp got ukad to lift suspension due to it being vada test and vada not apparently being acknowledged by them and bbbofc (i think they updated their rules to acknowledge vada in september 2022). UKAD and BBBofc both appealing to me shows that Benns team have still not co-operated. And Smith (bbbfoc head) has claimed they have still sent no evidence or co-operated

So now bbbofc/ukad are appealing and awaiting a nadp appeal date hearing. Who knows when that is

Benn then claimed this week clomifene was a small amount like canelo clen and that the limit should be increased before a failed test like for Clen (Clen waz a known problem in mexican meat a lot of evidencd, athletes and over 100 football players tested positive from it and proven to be from mexican meat) Not adding up when initially he was claiming not from eggs. If he said it was eggs and they did tests to provide evidence he might have a reasonable excuse but he hasn't. Do you think it was eggs or do you not. If so get the same eggs and do tests? If you're blaming flaws in testing then back it up?

Him and his team have gone about it wrong right from the beginning. From trying to let the fight go ahead, to then Eddie saying Vada is irrelevant in this case cause he passed UKAD and BBBofc recognise UKAD not Vada. But then loves going on about how he spends the most on vada

[M312]

Really? Thatâs just ridiculous.

Surely UKAD can just come out and say whether the hearing was with them or not, because itâs being reported like it was, and Benn/Hearn saying the same (doesnât mean itâs true mind you)

Surely for the suspension to be lifted it must mean that UKAD were involved? Or no? I genuinely donât know.

These are things the public should know.

The NAPD are independent and oversee and can adjudicate all doping disputes in UK sport. They are the final destination for all disputes.

In fact, I believe if UKAD wanted to do something anyway, it would be escalated to the NAPD who decide whether it is fair or not and can overturn it.