Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Promoter Arum Says Ngannou Presents 'Same Type of Danger' as Wilder

[baroidi]

no WBC HW title, but of course Sulaiman made a belt for this event for a quick buck. If the MMA guy beats Fury in this boxing match, MMA guy becomes Lineal, and boxing is dead.

[sege64]

I agree with Fury's promoter. Who else is taking these kind of risks? (Apart form Jake Paul)

I think Ngannou is the biggest risk to Fury since he fought Tom(?) Schwarz. Tim Scwarz(?) was KOing everyone. Only Fury had the guts to take him on. Fury also went the distance with the mighty Pianeta and gave the legendary David Price a hell of a fight in the amateurs. Who else has done these things??

QFT! all these haterz gonna hate! What about that Seferi killer that Fury even had to wrestle at the weigh in and security had to stop him just before he pile driver'd him cos that dude was out for blood!

[crimsonfalcon07]

I heard that this is an exhibition fight, with no belts on the line. I understand Arum is playing up the "danger" factor to sell tickets, but how many hard core fans are actually even vaguely interested?

It's a real fight going on both their records, but it's not a sanctioned title fight so the WBC belt won't be on the line. It's only a 10 rounder after all.

I don't know your metric for hard core fan. I'm personally not interested in giving any money to Fury. Even if Ngannou manages by some miracle to knock him out, there's a unilateral rematch clause IIRC, so he'd have to land two Hail Mary shots. But Ngannou has been proving people wrong for years, so who knows. Maybe he can pull off what looks impossible.

[Willow The Wisp]

There IS a pathway to Victory here for Ngannou, and let's don't pretend there isn't!

To save his promotion from embarrassment, Dana White, led by Jon Jones, Alexander Volkanovski, Leon Edwards, Kamaru Usman, Charles Oliveira, Sean Strickland, Sean O'Malley and Islam Makhachev, will storm the ring just before Ngannou is about to face plant, and the UFC Royal Rumble will ensue.

[IronDanHamza]

Apparently Wilder can't box...

He's an Olympic Bronze Medalist.

He dominated, outboxed and shut out Bermane Stiverene who at the time was the WBC Champion and the #2 ranked HW in the world.

He dropped a top level, highly skilled Luis Ortiz, stepping back with a perfectly timed counter right hand and then finished him shortly after.

He's no master boxer, but the notion he can't box is just absurd.

[Willow The Wisp]

It's a real fight going on both their records, but it's not a sanctioned title fight so the WBC belt won't be on the line. It's only a 10 rounder after all.

I don't know your metric for hard core fan. I'm personally not interested in giving any money to Fury. Even if Ngannou manages by some miracle to knock him out, there's a unilateral rematch clause IIRC, so he'd have to land two Hail Mary shots. But Ngannou has been proving people wrong for years, so who knows. Maybe he can pull off what looks impossible.

Ray Mercer did it in Nine seconds to a 2-time UFC champion when his crossover opportunity came.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Ray Mercer did it in Nine seconds to a 2-time UFC champion when his crossover opportunity came.

Yes, I'm aware. You've mentioned that several times. I could mention dozens of examples the other way as well. So what? Not even sure why you're responding to me? About all I've said in this thread was that it's an actual match not an exhibition, and that I hope that Ngannou actually does knock Fury out, as unlikely as that might seem.

[Willow The Wisp]

no WBC HW title, but of course Sulaiman made a belt for this event for a quick buck. If the MMA guy beats Fury in this boxing match, MMA guy becomes Lineal, and boxing is dead.

I don't know, I don't think that would hurt Boxing one bit!

When Mercer blew away Sylvia in 09', though it wasn't a UFC event it certainly scuttled their "Ultimate" fighter claim for all time; but it never really hurt their sport. They still had a tradition and a show to sell.

Ngannou, I think, would simply fall in the line with the long parade of interesting characters who have worn the title.
Boxing would sell him as the "champ who gained his preliminary experience by punching out Wrestler-Kickboxers".
Then maybe HE would seek to unify against Usyk, and we'd all be reminded that all fighters are cut from the same cloth even if they are taken up busy training for their chosen sport. And maybe, the UFC would be forced to revisit their pay structure without the insistence of litigation.

Who knows?

[Boro]

When you knock someone down four times and they get blatantly long counts on two of the knockdowns, yes, it is difficult to put them “down and out.” You could offer Fury three times the money he’s getting to fight Ngannou and wouldn’t fight Wilder a fourth time.

Yawn, Wilder got the same level of shíte counts in the 3rd fight and Fury was up at 9 in the first fight, quite frankly it's boring hearing these excuses from Wilder díck riders.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I find it perplexing how the narative now is Joshua looks crap and Wilder KO's him easily in one round. Let's look at the facts. Joshua still won his last fights since Usyk incredibly easy without really breaking a sweat. Meanwhile peak Wilder (not even including the Fury trilogy where he proved he isn't at that level) at his very best got completely out boxed by fringe contenders time after time before landing his pattened windmill shot.

Wilder is being built up as something he clearly isn't or ever has been. Nor is he a spring chicken these days. Even if he fights Joshua next he will be 38 when the bell rings. I could easily see Joshua wipe out Wilder within a few rounds. Wilder never faced a serious puncher in his prime, nevermind now. As you say about fighters fighting at 'world level.' you're correct. Joshua has been the main man doing that while there has been a lot of smoke and mirrors between Fury and wilder in this regard.

Anthony Joshua whether people mock him or not 'Is outside of Fury & Usyk the most proven pure boxer at Heavyweight'

Joshua went 24 rounds with Usyk, two fights back to back 'And made both fights competitive, trying to box skill for skill with Usyk'.

Wilder has never faced as a boxer and power puncher like Joshua at any stage of his career 'Fury is a great boxer, but does not have the punching power of Joshua'.

The likely-hood of the fight action will be, as long as Joshua is in the fight 'He will most likely be winning rounds. And Wilder will be getting hit with the most powerful punches he has ever experienced'.

So yes the way some people speak, as if Joshua has completely no chance of winning 'I don't think those people are really analyzing the fighters'.

Also Joshua since losing to Usyk, has achieved two comeback wins 'And he has won 95% of the rounds'.

Joshua is building momentum and giving himself the best opportunity to win etc.