Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Promoter Arum Says Ngannou Presents 'Same Type of Danger' as Wilder

[juggernaut666]

What a Joke to compare a MMGay fighter to K.O. artist Deontay Wilder.

Ngannou boxes better then Wilder does . What separates them however is in ring experience and the very overatted Fury isn’t nearly defense savvy as you think . This cherry pick may very well go wrong but it’s a cherry pick just like Wilder was at the end of the day . Lol

Lets put this in perspective Fury as champion in just a short while has had one cherry pick already after Wilder with Chisora and this one isn’t even a title fight which is bad enough not including Ngannou never had a single boxing bout ever …this of course is after declining undisputed because that’s exactly what he did , let that sink in . Lol

[Stuntman Mike]

Wilder may not be the sleekest boxer out there but when he connects it is lights out. He knocked down Fury 6 times in 3 fights. The only other person to knock Fury down was Cunningham. That speaks volumes IMO

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[Stuntman Mike]

What opponent would Joshua not be able to deck on Wilder's resume?

Fury has been decked by USS Cunningham who was not a powerful puncher even at cruiser weight.

If Joshua from the start of his career was matched up against all of the fighters on Wilder's resume 'Joshua has the ability to deck most of them, even Fury'.

Joshua is still eventually blasted out Helenius, just like Deontay Wilder.

Making the statement that 'Wilder sparks all the rest mate, is meaningless'.

But I do understand this is how hardcore Fury fans operate and like to build a fighters reputation 'Wilder sparks all the rest, is not a factual statement. It never happened, Wilder has not achieved those feats'.

I personally rate Deontay Wilder extremely highly, but? He has not proven unequivocally that he is the best of all the Heavyweights outside of Fury 'Wilder is a top-4 Heavyweight'.

It is still not clear who out of the top-4 is the absolute best. Style's make fights, and Fury really if people are honest? Is not as experienced as Joshua or Usyk at fighting at World or Elite level skill for skill 'Usyk at cruiser weight was contently fighting at World and elite level skill for skill, before he entered into the Heavyweight division'.

Who's Fury's next fight against, a top - 10 Heavyweight? No.

Who was Fury's last Heavyweight fight against? Dillian Whyte, a Heavyweight was ****** out by Joshua when he could actually move inside the boxing ring 'And who was also ****** out by Povetkin, Whyte was barely World level by the time he got his title fight with Fury'.

Tyson Fury does have two mega wins on his resume historically, but outside of that 'He has fought a bunch of domestic to high end European level fighters'.

Note: Right now as we speak mate, most of Fury's current reputation is built up off beating Deontay Wilder 'Fury's reputation is not really built up off beating Kiltschko. Because that win was not really brutal or conclusive'.

Fury's legacy sky rocketed after beating Deontay Wilder 'This is when his career transcended to another level.

So I understand why all of a sudden, Fury's hardcore fans back Wilder. But at the same time, I know that you are all apprehensive of Wilder fighting Joshua 'And Joshua beating Wilder'.

Joshua already has a better win over Kiltschkko than Fury 'Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

I have actually theorized that there is a possibility that both Wilder and Fury have acted like a smoke screen for each other 'Fury on the real, the last time he actually fought a elite level fighter skill for skill was 7-8 years ago vs Kiltschko. That Fury was 246-248 pounds, and was training under Peter Fury'.

Wilder was a elite level challenge, and fight 'But skill for skill no boxing purist would rate Wilder technically in terms of boxing skill as a elite level fighter'.

In comparison we all know Joshua's level 'Joshua competed over 24 rounds vs Usyk, two back to back fights and made both fights competitive. Joshua's boxing ability is proven, he is a capable boxer'.

When it comes to Tyson Fury, yes he may have two mega wins of his resume 'It terms of historical magnitude'. But it is unclear whether currently right now, he is actually still able to complete at elite level skill for skill within the Heavyweight division.

Fury's last two fights, do not prove this 'And his next fight, will also not prove this' etc.

Great Post and I agree with it all

Wilder was built up to generate money along with his almighty power when before there was guys like foreman who ko'd an actual elite heavyweight like no other and had dynamite in both hands from any angle


People who think wilder is the biggest puncher in heavyweight history dksab

[Roj]

No he didn't knock him down 6 times what!? also Cunningham isn't the only other one to knock him down Pajkic did years before Cunningham.

The only thing it speaks to is Wilders power is overrated, two guys who can't punch put Fury over yet the alleged biggest puncher in history can't put him down and out...

When you knock someone down four times and they get blatantly long counts on two of the knockdowns, yes, it is difficult to put them “down and out.” You could offer Fury three times the money he’s getting to fight Ngannou and wouldn’t fight Wilder a fourth time.

[niceyboo3]

While you guys are debating Wilders knockdowns, how did it go? Was it 2 in fight 1, 0 in fight 2 and 2 in fight 3? I can't remember

[Arthur Daley]

Bit harsh of Arum to say wilder is dog shiiiiit at boxing.

[Roberto Vasquez]

I agree with Fury's promoter. Who else is taking these kind of risks? (Apart form Jake Paul)

I think Ngannou is the biggest risk to Fury since he fought Tom(?) Schwarz. Tim Scwarz(?) was KOing everyone. Only Fury had the guts to take him on. Fury also went the distance with the mighty Pianeta and gave the legendary David Price a hell of a fight in the amateurs. Who else has done these things??

[Arthur Daley]

What opponent would Joshua not be able to deck on Wilder's resume?

Fury has been decked by USS Cunningham who was not a powerful puncher even at cruiser weight.

If Joshua from the start of his career was matched up against all of the fighters on Wilder's resume 'Joshua has the ability to deck most of them, even Fury'.

Joshua is still eventually blasted out Helenius, just like Deontay Wilder.

Making the statement that 'Wilder sparks all the rest mate, is meaningless'.

But I do understand this is how hardcore Fury fans operate and like to build a fighters reputation 'Wilder sparks all the rest, is not a factual statement. It never happened, Wilder has not achieved those feats'.

I personally rate Deontay Wilder extremely highly, but? He has not proven unequivocally that he is the best of all the Heavyweights outside of Fury 'Wilder is a top-4 Heavyweight'.

It is still not clear who out of the top-4 is the absolute best. Style's make fights, and Fury really if people are honest? Is not as experienced as Joshua or Usyk at fighting at World or Elite level skill for skill 'Usyk at cruiser weight was contently fighting at World and elite level skill for skill, before he entered into the Heavyweight division'.

Who's Fury's next fight against, a top - 10 Heavyweight? No.

Who was Fury's last Heavyweight fight against? Dillian Whyte, a Heavyweight was ****** out by Joshua when he could actually move inside the boxing ring 'And who was also ****** out by Povetkin, Whyte was barely World level by the time he got his title fight with Fury'.

Tyson Fury does have two mega wins on his resume historically, but outside of that 'He has fought a bunch of domestic to high end European level fighters'.

Note: Right now as we speak mate, most of Fury's current reputation is built up off beating Deontay Wilder 'Fury's reputation is not really built up off beating Kiltschko. Because that win was not really brutal or conclusive'.

Fury's legacy sky rocketed after beating Deontay Wilder 'This is when his career transcended to another level.

So I understand why all of a sudden, Fury's hardcore fans back Wilder. But at the same time, I know that you are all apprehensive of Wilder fighting Joshua 'And Joshua beating Wilder'.

Joshua already has a better win over Kiltschkko than Fury 'Wladimir Kiltschko vs Anthony Joshua is the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

I have actually theorized that there is a possibility that both Wilder and Fury have acted like a smoke screen for each other 'Fury on the real, the last time he actually fought a elite level fighter skill for skill was 7-8 years ago vs Kiltschko. That Fury was 246-248 pounds, and was training under Peter Fury'.

Wilder was a elite level challenge, and fight 'But skill for skill no boxing purist would rate Wilder technically in terms of boxing skill as a elite level fighter'.

In comparison we all know Joshua's level 'Joshua competed over 24 rounds vs Usyk, two back to back fights and made both fights competitive. Joshua's boxing ability is proven, he is a capable boxer'.

When it comes to Tyson Fury, yes he may have two mega wins on his resume 'It terms of historical magnitude'. But it is unclear whether currently right now, he is actually still able to compete at elite level skill for skill within the Heavyweight division.

Fury's last two fights, do not prove this 'And his next fight, will also not prove this' etc.

I find it perplexing how the narative now is Joshua looks crap and Wilder KO's him easily in one round. Let's look at the facts. Joshua still won his last fights since Usyk incredibly easy without really breaking a sweat. Meanwhile peak Wilder (not even including the Fury trilogy where he proved he isn't at that level) at his very best got completely out boxed by fringe contenders time after time before landing his pattened windmill shot.

Wilder is being built up as something he clearly isn't or ever has been. Nor is he a spring chicken these days. Even if he fights Joshua next he will be 38 when the bell rings. I could easily see Joshua wipe out Wilder within a few rounds. Wilder never faced a serious puncher in his prime, nevermind now. As you say about fighters fighting at 'world level.' you're correct. Joshua has been the main man doing that while there has been a lot of smoke and mirrors between Fury and wilder in this regard.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I know it's not happening, but it would be incredibly satisfying if Ngannou did actually knock Fury out, and take the lineal title from him. Forget the ****** WBC nonsense.

[SUBZER0ED]

I know it's not happening, but it would be incredibly satisfying if Ngannou did actually knock Fury out, and take the lineal title from him. Forget the ****** WBC nonsense.

I heard that this is an exhibition fight, with no belts on the line. I understand Arum is playing up the "danger" factor to sell tickets, but how many hard core fans are actually even vaguely interested?