Shakur Stevenson, the most overrated fighter in planeta.

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  • Mexican_Puppet
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    #11
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

    Oscar Valdez the #1 fighter in the 130 lb division at the time.

    Shakur would absolutely play with Navarrete.

    If you know what you’re watching, you can see Shakur has all the tools, I’m not necessarily a fan of the kid, but he’s unquestionably a supremely talented fighter.
    It does not matter, Valdez was not the unified fighter and Navarrete showed that Valdez was not a great win.

    Nope, Navarrete Is a 130 fighter with only 2 fights in the division, but he could win a fight vs Stevenson in 130.

    Stevenson real weight Is 140 pounds.

    I know about boxing, Shakur Is a very good fighter but he wont be a legend or Is in that kind of level.

    His chin Is unproven, he has holes in His defense too.

    You only can be a supremely talented fight when you destroyes another great fighters.

    Shakur has 0 great wins.

    The USA media Is the most obsene media in all the world.

    They dont know about Inoue because he was born in japan when he has 7 years destryoing champs in every división, AND His hype Is not near of the hype of Stevenson.

    Reason? He Is from japan.


    Mark my words, Shakur would be K.O when he face a great explosive fighter with skills and K.O power.

    And that arrogant energy would be against himself sooner or later.

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    • MulaKO
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      #12
      Say what you will about the kid but he’s got the goods
      Not particularly fond about the man but that doesn’t concern me
      He’s just another boxer playing the game and he is being avoided big time

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      • Mexican_Puppet
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        #13
        Originally posted by MulaKO
        Say what you will about the kid but he’s got the goods
        Not particularly fond about the man but that doesn’t concern me
        He’s just another boxer playing the game and he is being avoided big time
        You cant be that good for default or because the USA media say. In this sport you need to prove you are that good.

        how? Beating great champions.

        This guy has 0 good wins

        And he looked good against poor very poor opposition.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet

          You cant be that good for default or because the USA media say. In this sport you need to prove you are that good.

          how? Beating great champions.

          This guy has 0 good wins

          And he looked good against poor very poor opposition.
          Can it be cause he’s not Mexican that you refuse to give credit ?
          You’ve been a boxing fan for a while , so you can’t tell me you don’t see the talent
          Hard to fight good opponents when they keep ducking

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          • GhostofDempsey
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            #15
            At the moment he hasn’t beaten a great fighter. But the best fighters at 135 are avoiding him. Martin just ducked him leaving a million on the table.

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            • dan_cov
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              #16
              Pure eye-test fighter.
              He is skilled but he has beaten nobody but guys much, much smaller than him and terribly limited who haven't looked the same since peeing hot. And they've been beaten more decisively for most part.

              Maybe not overrated but he is certainly overhyped.
              He hasn't proven anything at 135 and we have everyone favouring him over the top dogs and even the ones in the division above. Slow the hype! We're yet to see him face a decent 135lber nevermind him easily beating the top guys at 140.

              I'd even say he was more textbook sound than I would saying he was exceptionally skilled. Maybe he is though I am just yet to see it because of his lack of competition. I think he looks rather basic personally.

              I find it odd why he is so hyped compared to what he has done and the same people hyping belittle much more established and proven rivals. Or they say eye-test but their reasoning for hyping Shakur can only be the same reason. Or they will claim other fighters are boring yet Shakur who is supposedly the second coming has more or less the same style maybe even more methodical than they are. Support who you like I am just not understanding the hype & what looks to me to be double standards.

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              • crimsonfalcon07
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                #17
                Someone's clearly motivated by something other than reason and knowledge. If you don't know what you are looking at with Shakur, that's just because of your own lack of knowledge about boxing. He's the hardest guy to hit in all of boxing. I don't think his style will age well though, because it's dependent on reflexes and speed and vision, all of which fade with age, but he's got a long career ahead of him before that happens.

                If he fought Navarrete you would just make excuses about how he was bullying the smaller guy. You're not a boxing fan. Just another dime a dozen hater.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  Pure eye-test fighter.
                  He is skilled but he has beaten nobody but guys much, much smaller than him and terribly limited who haven't looked the same since peeing hot. And they've been beaten more decisively for most part.

                  Maybe not overrated but he is certainly overhyped.
                  He's overhyped. Any opinion why Martin turned down a fight with an overhyped fighter? The Tank fight for him is not expected to materialize quickly. Why did Martin not choose to fight both of them? Beat ovehyped Shakur in November, then Tank next year.

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                  • dan_cov
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                    #19
                    No denying he looks good, no denying he is good.
                    He is skilled.

                    My whole thing with him outside of the hype is his competition. Its easy for a good out-boxer to look great when he is fighting midgets he has huge height and reach advantages over that can't cut a ring off, load up and throw single shots.
                    He controls range well vs tiny opposition who are very limited. Lets see him fighting quality his own size before we start claiming he is P4P, A superstar etc
                    because all I've seen upto now is a much bigger southpaw doing the same fade back left hand over & over. Can he get away with that against opponents his size who have speed, better timing, better skills? What happens when he fights a fighter with similar attributes to say a Navarette who throws from awkward angles, changes the trajectory of his shots and is throwing fives and sixes?
                    Does he have other defensive abilities?

                    For me the jury is still out.
                    I get he is avoided but the same guys who blasted the likes of Lara, Rigondeaux etc need to realise he is in a similar mould.

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                    • Oracle01
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                      Oscar Valdez the #1 fighter in the 130 lb division at the time.

                      Shakur would absolutely play with Navarrete.

                      If you know what you’re watching, you can see Shakur has all the tools, I’m not necessarily a fan of the kid, but he’s unquestionably a supremely talented fighter.
                      Floyd was supremely talented, so was someone like Judah, and I don't see that level of talent from shakur despite all the hype. Just being a good slick boxer does not make you the next floyd. The hype is out of control. People use adjective like 'supreme' way too lightly. I would love to see him fight Santos and see what he does with a legit dangerous fighter unlike a midget like Valdez.

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