Why we should WATCH Fury vs. Ngannou while waiting for Fury to unify.

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  • Smash
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    #21
    Waiting for fury to unify

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    • Madison Boxing
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      #22
      Originally posted by YGriffith

      You can say the same about francis who turned down millions to face jon, but that's not my point here, my point is the baddest man alive is the heavyweight ufc champion, not the champion in a restricted form of fighting, the fact that Fury doesn't want to step outside his domaine says enough about him as "baddest" hiding behind the "money".

      Plus a highschool wrestler will make quick work of any HW champ in all of history, doesn't scream to me as the baddest.
      more than likely that poster is in his late 40s/50s, had dealings with a few of the old dinosaurs/'boxing historians' on here who still think that boxers are the baddest men on the planet and that somehow every world class MMA coach in the world has got it wrong by not just training their guys in pure boxing and nothing else... i find boxing more entertaining to watch but is laughable to think that a fight between tyson fury and someone like jon jones wouldnt end with fury having his lead leg grabbed, being taken down and flailing around on his back like a fish out of water all within 30 seconds (at an absolute push)... unless the MMA fighter is a moron and has the ego to want to prove they can stand and trade i wouldnt even give a boxer a punchers chance, pretty much zero percent chance they are going to catch someone on the way in with a KO blow if they duck low and come in quick at the legs... what people on here dont seem to understand is that yes there are 'strikers' in UFC but even the strikers who prefer to stay on their feet have done a crazy amount of grappling training (to stop them just getting dumped down and submitted)
      Last edited by Madison Boxing; 09-10-2023, 12:58 PM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by YGriffith

        You can say the same about francis who turned down millions to face jon, but that's not my point here, my point is the baddest man alive is the heavyweight ufc champion, not the champion in a restricted form of fighting, the fact that Fury doesn't want to step outside his domaine says enough about him as "baddest" hiding behind the "money".

        Plus a highschool wrestler will make quick work of any HW champ in all of history, doesn't scream to me as the baddest.
        If you want to see how a world champion HW wrestler does against a HW boxing champ, check out the fight between Antonio Inoki and Muhammad Ali.

        Inoki threw himself down onto the canvas as soon as Ali got anywhere near him and spent the entire fight lying on his back kicking at Ali's legs because he knew that if he stood up he would be KO'd within seconds.
        Last edited by kafkod; 09-10-2023, 01:21 PM.

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          #24
          Really it all depends on the undercard for me.

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            #25
            Originally posted by kafkod

            If you want to see how a world champion HW wrestler does against a HW boxing champ, check out the fight between Antonio Inoki and Muhammad Ali.
            ​​​​​​"if you want to see how a world champion HW wrestler does against a HW boxing champ, check out the fight between Antonio Inoki and Muhammad Ali."
            You aint tricking anyone with that false statement.

            Let me guess, you also think floyd vs big show is what a lightweight against a heavyweight will looklike?

            Even then ali had nothing for inoki even with all the restrictions they put on him, he didn't throw himself on his back to kick because he wanted to he did it because he wasnt allowed to do it standing up, and the so called world champion didt even try to grapple, but you know, even with all the restrictions inoki syill ****ed up Ali's legs, blood clots and infections, he soent the rest of his career with messed up legs.

            Aleksandr Karelin will dispatch of any boxer you want to name, past, present or futur.
            Last edited by YGriffith; 09-10-2023, 01:57 PM.

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            • Rhino-T
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              #26
              It's a entertainment sport.

              It's a cheaky fun event thrown in the middle of a fairly lackluster year.

              Why not?
              Don't watch it if you're not interested..

              At it's worse, it will bring fans over from MMA so will make our sport stronger.

              Win win for us all apart from the odball fans that we currently have in boxing.

              Cross over fans are what the sport needs. People that won't turn on a fighter once he loses. Many sporting teams/players looses but the fans keep supporting them. Boxing needs the same.

              Also figheters need to fight more to support this.

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              • kafkod
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                #27
                Originally posted by YGriffith

                ​​​​​​"if you want to see how a world champion HW wrestler does against a HW boxing champ, check out the fight between Antonio Inoki and Muhammad Ali."
                You aint tricking anyone with that false statement.

                Let me guess, you also think floyd vs big show is what a lightweight against a heavyweight will looklike?

                Even then ali had nothing for inoki even with all the restrictions they put on him, he didn't throw himself on his back to kick because he wanted to he did it because he wasnt allowed to do it standing up, and the so called world champion didt even try to grapple, but you know, even with all the restrictions inoki syill ****ed up Ali's legs, blood clots and infections, he soent the rest of his career with messed up legs.

                Aleksandr Karelin will dispatch of any boxer you want to name, past, present or futur.
                Was there any rule or restriction preventing Inoki from simply walking up to Ali, getting hold of him and folding him like a deck chair? Which is what fools like you insist that any wrestler could easily do to a boxer - even a world class boxer like Ali?

                Was there any rule or restriction preventing Inoki from staying upright, on his feet, for longer than 10 seconds after the bell rang to start a round?

                Was there any rule rule or restriction preventing Inoki from fighting like a man, rather than a drunken girl on a pavement outside a night club?

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                  #28
                  So some of your morons still believe Fury will fight Usyk. Yeah, because fighting Chisora and UFC guy is a great way to prepare for elite southpaw.

                  Keep on hoping.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by YGriffith

                    Let me guess, you also think floyd vs big show is what a lightweight against a heavyweight will looklike?
                    If the lightweight is a world class boxer and the heavyweight is a muscle bound roid junkie who couldn't fight for real for more than 10 seconds without suffering cardiac arrest, then yes.

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                    • Madison Boxing
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kafkod

                      If you want to see how a world champion HW wrestler does against a HW boxing champ, check out the fight between Antonio Inoki and Muhammad Ali.

                      Inoki threw himself down onto the canvas as soon as Ali got anywhere near him and spent the entire fight lying on his back kicking at Ali's legs because he knew that if he stood up he would be KO'd within seconds.
                      inoki was a pro-wrestler/WWE style ffs lol, pretty sure Ygriffith was talking about the type of wrestling they use in UFC not someone like Triple H or Kane

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