Wiil Usyk drop a belt to avoid Hrgovic?

[Smash]

I don't read every post mate.

That's the first time that article and info has been presented to me.

Heres one

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/boxing-forums/non-stop-boxing/31932239-why-didn-t-usyk-agree-to-the-no-rematch-clause-terms/page8

[IronDanHamza]

Heres one

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...se-terms/page8

Doesn't look like I responded to it, meaning I must have missed it.

I don't see your angle as to why you're pushing this? I've read over the evidence presented and I've conceded my position.

[dannnnn]

Well, in that case with the new facts presented here I stand corrected and concede that if 50/50 was agreed upon regardless of location and also that a deal was turned down by Fury with the Saudi's then Fury is more so to blame than Usyk for then moving the goalpost on that down the line.

So I withdraw my position that they are equally to blame.

That said, Usyk did his fair share of game playing and presented his own obstacles during these negotiations, that goes without saying. Now the context of that does now possibly change, as I wasn't aware that those two substantial events had happened previously by team Fury, meaning perhaps they were fed up of the games and decided to play their own in response.

Fair enough, I respect that.

[Smash]

i think its a bit silly that people are berating 'usyk defenders' even saying people think the guy is whiter than white

This is only ON THIS ISSUE

Imagine u have agreed mega cash for saudi, clown face cant agree, u start talks for uk and he immediately demands 70% & if u dont accept it within a few days the offer gets worse or something silly like that lol

i would be going NUTS, usyk ON THIS ISSUE seems to me to have displayed incredible patience

On top of that clown face and his groupies blame usyk for it all LMAO

Now unless other evidence appears i cant see how u can really see it much different than that

[Dr. Z]

Really? can we? There could be no other reason? and we know that know?

Really what is your excuse if he ducks Hrgovic? The IBF has / will order the fight. Now how do you see it playing out?

You seem to know a thing or two about boxing so do tell.

[billeau2]

Really what is your excuse if he ducks Hrgovic? The IBF has / will order the fight. Now how do you see it playing out?

You seem to know a thing or two about boxing so do tell.

I don't assume it is a duck...I would have to look at the entire situation and reconstruct what Usyk's possible motivations might be. Lewis turned down a mandatory once... was it a duck? I don't think so, it was to avoid the terror known as Jawny Ruiz (being sarcastic) and fight a guy who people thought would punch him hard (Michael Grant). So, lets see what the landscape looks like when the fight gets called.

[Smash]

usyk is busy grinding his mandos & flubby is fighting stumble bum & the mma guy & saying he doesnt think the undisputed fight gets made, the reason he thinks this is because hes the only guy who knows whats going on in his head lol, the fight will get made if u want it to get made is highly likely scenario mr flubby

[Dr. Z]

I don't assume it is a duck...I would have to look at the entire situation and reconstruct what Usyk's possible motivations might be. Lewis turned down a mandatory once... was it a duck? I don't think so, it was to avoid the terror known as Jawny Ruiz (being sarcastic) and fight a guy who people thought would punch him hard (Michael Grant). So, lets see what the landscape looks like when the fight gets called.

Lewis did not want to fight Jawny Ruiz, he wanted to fight a big goof named Mike Grant. Everybody knows that!

Yes, let us see what happens But If Usyk drops a belt rather than faces Hrgovic, well then unless he fights Fury next ( the only legit exes for him ) the Crow will be waiting ...

[HeadShots]

A complete bum KO5 Usyk in his last fight

Hrgo wins pretty easily. By stoppage

[billeau2]

Lewis did not want to fight Jawny Ruiz, he wanted to fight a big goof named Mike Grant. Everybody knows that!

Yes, let us see what happens But If Usyk drops a belt rather than faces Hrgovic, well then unless he fights Fury next ( the only legit exes for him ) the Crow will be waiting ...

I rest my case... You are an idiot. Put yourself in my position: You are claiming Usyk is ducking a fighter... And when I confirm that this might not be, and give an ironclad example...

You could say many things, but unless Lewis had a pathological fear of Puerto Ricans, there is no way he would fear Ruiz as an opponent. There is literally no logical way to make a case that Lewis had motive to duck Ruiz when we consider how Grant was viewed at the time, as compared to Ruiz.

I cannot argue with someone who thinks lewis ducked Ruiz. It is like the Russian thread... Some people are just beyond the pale, off the reservation...