Oleksandr Usyk needs to rematch the uncrowned champ Daniel Dubois on neutral ground

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  • Toffee
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    #31
    Originally posted by 786

    Obviously the ref makes the call, and it was borderline so I can see how he made that decision but in my opinion it was a legit body shot.

    Let’s say you weren’t on the fence and thought it was a legal blow, do you think the outcome would be different in a rematch?

    Is it worth delaying better matchups and a potential undisputed fight for another Usyk-Dubois fight?

    I think Usyk would’ve got up and weathered the storm had the ref started counting and the fight would’ve ended the same way. We don’t know for sure but I don’t think Dubois would’ve had it in him to finish Usyk nor do I think he’ll do any better in a rematch.

    It’s best to move on.
    If the ref has made a bad call that fundamentally affected the fight then, yes, I absolutely think he should get a rematch ordered.

    Obviously I'd prefer Undisputed, but if the champion has fought his mandatory challenger and the result is unsatisfactory then he should rematch.

    Maybe he would have got up... maybe he wouldn't have. If he had got up then he'd have been in trouble. Maybe he'd have weathered it maybe it wouldn't.

    They can't just move on just because we want a different fight. Dubois wasn't a voluntary - he'd earned that mandatory position.

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    • Toffee
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      #32
      Originally posted by tophat1
      Nah he cherry picked his way to a shot after joyce made him quit, landed a low blow when he got his shot and went down twice to jabs. He needs to get back in line and rebuild
      He didn't cherry pick.

      He fought who he needed to fight.
      Last edited by Toffee; 08-27-2023, 06:51 AM.

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      • champion4ever
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        #33
        Originally posted by W1LL
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        Otherwise, he can't be taken seriously anymore. A man can't claim to be the best after winning through blatant cheating and home cooking.

        Heavyweight Rankings @ 27th August 2023
        #1 Tyson Fury
        #2 Deontay Wilder
        #3 Daniel Dubois (uncrowned)
        #4 Oleksandr Usyk
        #5 Anthony Joshua
        I agree. The referee had done him dirty. Moreover, I thought it was very tasteless and cowardly of Usyk to lie on the ground that long in order to show up Dubois in order to get him DQd.

        Also, by constantly complaining to the referee each and every time Dubois landed a legitimate punch to his body. Daniel Dubois should be crowned the new unified Heavyweight champion of the world.

        It was a clean punch. If a punch lands anywhere on the waistline then it's ruled a legal punch.

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        • QueensburyRules
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          #34
          - - Blubber bs Dubois perfect in house fight.

          Blubber #3 rank on Boxrec!

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          • _Rexy_
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            #35
            He quit three rounds later off a jab.

            That's your champion I guess. God save the King.

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            • 786
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              #36
              Originally posted by Toffee

              If the ref has made a bad call that fundamentally affected the fight then, yes, I absolutely think he should get a rematch ordered.

              Obviously I'd prefer Undisputed, but if the champion has fought his mandatory challenger and the result is unsatisfactory then he should rematch.

              Maybe he would have got up... maybe he wouldn't have. If he had got up then he'd have been in trouble. Maybe he'd have weathered it maybe it wouldn't.

              They can't just move on just because we want a different fight. Dubois wasn't a voluntary - he'd earned that mandatory position.
              The thing is with the ref’s call, we’re still debating it with replays and still images etc meaning there’s enough grey area to give him the benefit of the doubt. I thought it was on the belt line but Usyk won convincingly otherwise.

              The call was ambiguous enough, I don’t see Dubois doing any better in a rematch and there’s no point in delaying the division any further over an ambiguous call. It’s not clear enough to warrant all that.

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              • NoConcoms
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                #37
                UK fans all butthurt because USYK IS THEIR DADDY!

                And this thread is proof that you British drunkards start drinking at 5am. Phuck the UK.

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  #38
                  No he doesn`t. F.uck Dubois, he is pathetic. If he was the man, he would have dropped Usyk again, leaving no doubts. Except that shot, Dubois had nothing in this fight.

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