Joshua wouldn't stand a chance against Wilder. Wilder knocked Fury down multiple times. Neither Usyk or Joshua have any punching power whatsoever so obviously an "across the ponder" that doesn't know boxing. Usyk couldn't even knockout Joshua who has a powder puff chin. I really wish that the Fury/Usyk, Usyk/Wilder or Joshua/Wilder fights are made so all the Usyk and Joshua fans will stop posting nonsense on these forums.
Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Drops Daniel Dubois Twice, Knocks Him Out in Ninth
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Look at the picture of the punch landed on Usyk and the position of his trunks. They are up over his belly button. Then, there are pictures with his trunks below his belly button. A moving target?Comment
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Don't have a dog in the fight but will give my opinion. Usyk wears his trunks low enough that his belly button was exposed. There isn't much room between the belly button and package to begin with and Dubois fist pretty much covered the distance. Not saying Usyk was hit directly in the package and I have never stepped into a ring. With that said I have heard countless times over the years fighters stating that even getting hit in the foul cup can be a very painful experience. I also see many folks on here comparing this to the Ward/Krusher fight. Stating that's wards punch was lower and legal. Well, no it wasn't and the Ward KO of Krusher was in my opinion one of the worst calls in the 50 plus years I have been watching boxing. There is also the fact that the ref called it right away and please tell me what fighter would not have milked the situation even a little bit. I also read on SB Nation that Usyk tried to continue a couple of times and the ref simply gave him more time. Folks on here also asking why the ref didn't deduct a point. My question why would he? The punch wasn't a flagrant low blow so no need to penalize him. With all that said in my opinion this dosen't even crack the top 25 controversial decisions I have witnessed over the decades.Last edited by John "The Beast"; 08-27-2023, 11:01 AM.Comment
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Dubois did quit. That's the difference. I'm not condemning him, btw. ATG fighters have quit when they knew, in their heart of hearts, that they couldn't win a fight.
Tough comparison because AJ had been dropped four times and ignored the refs commands, I understood the ref for stopping the fight based on that and AJ's body language. AJ looked like the fight had been taken out of him, and his body language looked like he was finished but he also plead that it shouldn't have been stopped.
Dubois on the other hand; after the seventh round I texted EffPandas and said "If that KD wasn't with 5 seconds left, I think Dubois stays down. He's looked like he's wanted to quit for a while now." and then in the next round, he took a knee and quit off a stiff jab. No argument over the stoppage either. Just walked to his corner content like Marcus Browne when he lost to Beterbiev.
I don't think either of them really have that "fighters mentality" so to speak, but AJ at least is competitive and still wants to win, while DDD has quit twice now in the face of adversity. Guys supported it in the Joyce fight saying "His face was broken! It could have ended his career!" (His face wasn't broken, he had his next fight before Joyce did FFS) but what will the excuse be now? He quit because he felt he won and was discouraged?
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Usyk is bending at the waist in that pic and his trunks have been pushed up by Dubois' punch, so of course they are up over his belly button.Comment
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Carl Froch explaining exactly why the referee made the right call on that punch.
And in case anybody wants to argue with Carl's definition of what a low blow is, here's a quote from the Association of Boxing Commissions website. All professional championship bouts adhere to these rules:
"Fouls may include, but are not limited to, the following types of contact or acts: 1. HITTING AN OPPONENT BELOW THE NAVEL"
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