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  • uppercut510
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    #651
    Originally posted by Tom Joad




    No, the ref did not give those instructions in the Usyk fight, but nobody pays attention to those repetitive instructions anyway because everyone in boxing knows that punches below the belt are not allowed. Same with rabbit punches, elbows, kicking, biting, etc. Presumably the refs in the later fights that day were emphasizing it because of the false controversy over the low blow to Usyk.
    Its not a false controversy alot think it was legal and they have a right to think it, it wasnt a low blow imo; but the ref called it one and usyk took advantage and came back to make him quit. if it were the other way around many would say it was legal. punches BELOW the belt are illegal while punches ON THE belt are legal especially if the belt is covering the belly button or high. this one was more on the belt than below. and the ref needs to give instructions so its known.
    Last edited by uppercut510; 08-28-2023, 03:18 PM.

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    • Tom Joad
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      #652
      Originally posted by uppercut510

      Its not a false controversy alot think it was legal and they have a right to think it, it wasnt a low blow imo; but the ref called it one and usyk took advantage and came back to make him quit. if it were the other way around many would say it was legal. punches BELOW the belt are illegal while punches ON THE belt are legal especially if the belt is covering the belly button or high. this one was more on the belt than below. and the ref needs to give instructions so its known.
      The later ref's instructions in Tulsa made it very clear that hitting anywhere on the trunks was illegal period. They made it clear that punches must land above the trunks entirely. If a fighter's trunks were worn too high the ref must inform the fighters of that, but Usyk's wasn't. It was worn in the normal position. It was obvious by his reaction that the punch struck his genitals. It may have brushed against them or his cup first and then landed on the belt line, but it did impact his genitals. Usyk is no stumblebum actor looking to take a dive and fake a low blow injury. Is there a good slow mo closeup of that punch?

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      • Tom Joad
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        #653
        Look at the cover photo of this video. Look where the bottom of the glove is. If that's not a low blow I don't know what is!

        https://*************/watch?v=cyvu5xR6D8E
        Last edited by Tom Joad; 08-28-2023, 11:34 PM.

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          #654
          Originally posted by Thatmanox

          I think wilders horrible. But what’s hilarious is you saying Dubois takes proper fights? Who has he fought? Other than Joyce or Usyk? Kevin Johnson? Wilder cherry picks opponents, but they’re better than Dubois’s resume. Don’t think wilder would win many round, but had spark out power to hurt and ko Usyk. Usyk was getting hurt by Dubois, wilder hits harder and throws better punches than Dubois. None of them beat fury.
          How many fights has Dubois had? And how many has Wilder had? What happens to Wilder at the same points as Dubois when fighting Joyce and Usyk?

          Wilder doesn't land body shots. He can't even land head shots properly without an extreme struggle. He's nowhere near to being able to get clean shots off the way Dubois does. Never has and never will be able to.

          Dubois hurt Usyk with the KO body shot and not at any other time. It's rare for Usyk to be hurt. What you're forgetting though, is how easy it is to hurt Wilder, repeatedly. You only look at fights regarding Wilder from one side. It's ignorant and devoid of being able to break a fight down properly when you do that. It's laughable and comes off like it's been said by a child. Usyk dominates and stops Wilder. One is not only a world class fighter, but is a great fighter. The other has never beaten a world class fighter. Now, why is that?

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            #655
            Why did Daniel Dubois pull a Bruce Seldon in Round 8? Does he just lack a gas tank? Or is he just a big British b**tch?

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            • Thatmanox
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              #656
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee

              How many fights has Dubois had? And how many has Wilder had? What happens to Wilder at the same points as Dubois when fighting Joyce and Usyk?

              Wilder doesn't land body shots. He can't even land head shots properly without an extreme struggle. He's nowhere near to being able to get clean shots off the way Dubois does. Never has and never will be able to.

              Dubois hurt Usyk with the KO body shot and not at any other time. It's rare for Usyk to be hurt. What you're forgetting though, is how easy it is to hurt Wilder, repeatedly. You only look at fights regarding Wilder from one side. It's ignorant and devoid of being able to break a fight down properly when you do that. It's laughable and comes off like it's been said by a child. Usyk dominates and stops Wilder. One is not only a world class fighter, but is a great fighter. The other has never beaten a world class fighter. Now, why is that?
              It only looks worse now that Joyce was sparked out. Zhang’s not a world class fighter, just a good fighter with power. Dubois couldn’t even beat Joyce.

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                #657
                Originally posted by Thatmanox

                It only looks worse now that Joyce was sparked out. Zhang’s not a world class fighter, just a good fighter with power. Dubois couldn’t even beat Joyce.
                Zhang is just a horrible style match-up for Joyce. Joyce is good against orthodox fighters as he can get his left foot close to his opponent to get his shots off. But when it's a big southpaw who keeps centre ring, Joyce's already quite awkward punches become too stunted to do any damage. Then when you add in the fact he's a slow puncher who opens up too much, you get that result.

                Fighters who Zhang will lose against are fighters Joyce won't have many problems with.

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